House Republicans BRING THE RECEIPTS To Prove Hunter Biden's Tax Crimes

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Great Scott !  Tom found it, folks  !   The big solid brick of evidence that proves Joe Biden is a crook !

 

Joe had phone calls with Hunter. Got that?  He had the audacity to communicate with his own son....on a telephone no less.     There's no "pay" cited...or no resulting "play" cited.   But there were phone calls.   Joe was on one phone and Hunter was on the other.    So the only rational explanation is money laundering !

 

H-O-L-Y   S-H-I-T 

 

 


Tom has PROOFY PROOF to show us DA TROOTY TROOT!

 

I mean, talking to your SON...on the PHONE...STRING HIM UP!!!!!

 

KUNSPEERISSY! (Using David Miller spelling.)

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

HB took a plea deal ..that's that. Have the resident liberals here looked at / read the recently released IRS transcripts of the whistleblower testimonies related to  HB's IRS tax case? Consider it..maybe even do it..you know just for fair fun? Then you can all run back in here and discount a considerable degree of evidence for/of a biased DOJ ( including AG Garland, amongst a host of others) in this case and some at least partial truths. Then you can refer to all these testimonies as comic cartoons, etc...and re-lambast the oversight committee and all the sorry-assed Republicans.

 

No links..look it up yourselves. *l* Googlegoober it "IRS whistleblowers transcripts of Hunter Biden tax case". Find the actual PDF of the IRS transcripts, rather than an opinion piece ( just a strong suggestion).

 

Particularly, I'd be interested in what Mark has to say regarding the veracity of these testimonies and whether any bias occurred or not..because he's at times pretty reasonable ( despite the reality that I'm miles apart from him on most political issues). Plus, he apparently has legal training / background...maybe some merit there.


I don't find the whistleblower, Gary Shapley,  credible.  The "whistleblower" isn't an attorney, he doesn't know the relevant law including case law and what type of evidence is required to have a provable case in court.  For example, a chain of custody has to be established in order to make evidence admissible.  Anything that was discovered on that cloned laptop data would be inadmissible because a chain of custody cannot be established. The people that obtained the data did so by committing felonies themselves and then passed it around to several conservative political operatives before it ever made its way to the FBI. In order for it to be admissible the FBI would have to obtain the untouched laptop through some legal means such as a subpoena.  

 

 

Weiss sent a letter to Gym Jordan outlining that he had sole authority to handle the case however he thought best. Garland has said Weiss will be available to give testimony to the House.  Gym can ask all his questions he wants but the bottom line is there wasn't any admissible evidence to prove Hunter committed any other crimes. As much as conservatives want to boo hoo, it is case closed at this point.  On the upside for conservatives, I have my doubts Hunter can stay clean for two years which would make that gun charge come back. 

 

 

As I have stated before, most tax cases against high-resource individuals get settled for pennies on the dollar without admission of any criminal wrongdoing. The prosecutor took the deal because he knew it was the best he was going to get and would have likely ended up with less if it went to trial. In this case, he got an admission of criminal liability plus the IRS got all the back taxes plus interest and penalties. The idea that they would bring felony charges against a first-time offender that paid their back taxes in full is ludicrous. 

 

 

There is a significant amount of evidence pointing to crimes that the DOJ never bothered to investigate.

 

We have several people who have a lot to lose by lying & coming forward; while Garland has a lot to lose by lying.

 

Then we have this amazing coincidence.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-linked-account-received-5-million-days-threatening-messages-sitting-here-father

 

On Aug. 4, 2017, Chinese firm CEFC Infrastructure Investment wired $100,000 to Hunter Biden’s law firm Owasco, according to a 2020 report published by the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. Then, days later on Aug. 8, 2017, CEFC Infrastructure Investment sent $5 million to Hudson West III, a firm Hunter Biden opened with Chinese associates.

 

The two transactions totaling $5.1 million came within 10 days of messages uncovered Thursday by the House Ways and Means Committee. In the messages — shared to the panel via IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley Jr., who oversaw the agency's probe into Hunter Biden — Hunter Biden blasted business partner Henry Zhao for not fulfilling his "commitment" and said his father was with him

Edited on Jun 24, 2023 7:44am

When do we get to the "illegal" or "corruption" part of your story?

 

Tom, I dont know if you remember - but Joe Biden was a civilian in 2017..   So what government favor did he award Hunter's foreign business partners given the fact that he was not in government?     

 

Keep in mind -  you are on record saying Trump's foreign business while in office is ok because he also did it while out of office.    So what exactly is your alleged non-hypocritical gripe in Hunter Biden's affairs?    Civilians arent allowed to do business with foreign countries unless their last name is Trump?

 

Nevermind you dont have any evidence....you dont even have a coherent fictional story.

Edited on Jun 24, 2023 9:17am

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Nice try, Charles. Of course, you never specifically used that language. But your "proof" that Trump is the poor, poor victim of a witch hunt is that Biden isn't being dragged off in chains for having a son who cheated on his taxes. Absolute, unequivocal proof of bias!!!!!!! OOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

 

I agree that conservatism USED to be a viable, defensible political philosophy, aside from its fundamental flaws (change is BAD!!!!). But NOW...it's all about conspiracy theories, virtue signaling, and strenuous efforts to strip away the rights of people who aren't white and male. So sad that you refuse to acknowledge how anti-democratic and downright mean-spirited your gang has become.

 

I also regret that you don't acknowledge how close we are to fascism and the snuffing out of democracy. I guarantee that nine out of ten places where democracy died, most people said to themselves, "That can never happen here." Many such people told themselves that the real goal of those who eventually seized power was to make people's lives better. Observe how tiresomely and frequently the RepubliQ and the MAGAs wave the flag and babble about "traditional American values" (like "blacks aren't human").

 

The loss of our freedoms won't be brought about by those people, though. It'll be brought about by those who condone and endorse their actions. Congrats, Charles.


You're so obsessed with the phrase "blacks aren't human", which you assign as common usage by every conservative on the planet..and you employ it incessantly. It's bullshit because it's not true to the degree you insinuate. It happens, but it's far from commonplace in this day and age. This ain't the 60's South anymore, Beatrice. Besides , do you really want to have a discussion about your party's historical attitude towards civil rights / slavery? EG the Southern Democrats and their influences pre and post Civil War/ reconstruction regarding Black Americans? What you claim on this issue in current times is at best mythical and outdated, honestly.

 

And the white male thing? You further assign that attitudinal label to all conservatives as well. The real truth is that there are assholes on both sides of the aisle (R's , D's, I's, L's on and on)..and within the electorate / citizenry. All of us are fallible. You probably should add "rich" to your denigration scheme; I could probably get behind part of that argument..as we all know that money talks and the rest walks in the grand majority of issues now.

 

Your tendency to blanketly assign all ills and wrongs to all conservatives is tyrannical in its base nature. There's little democracy, which you claim aspirations of preserving, in that attitude. Next we can argue about tyranny and its influences and those disdained 'traditional American values' you referred to. There's more freedom in the latter than you can see, apparently. Just don't ever assume that all 'change' is always for the better despite its inevitability.

Joe had phone calls with Hunter. Got that? He had the audacity to communicate with his own son....on a telephone no less. There's no "pay" cited...or no resulting "play" cited

 

As usual pj misses the point.  For years joe denied having had any discussions with his son about his business dealings.  Turns out that he did & he lied about it.  Why?  Not only were there phone calls, there were meetings & trips on govt owned planes.  The DOJ & the IRS has decided not to investigate these potential crimes.  Attempts to search & question other biden homes & relatives were turned down.  But with Republicans the FBI sends in SWAT teams. With the Republican controlled House some of this  shady stuff is just coming to light

 

 

In 2017 biden was considered a leading candidate to run 2020 & was an influential member of the democratic party.  So making payments/investments to him was still a viable option for people trying to influence US policy.  Plus the biden gang had been receiving money for years while he was in office.

 

Pj gets his shorts in a bunch over people doing business with Trump's companies that have been in continuous operations for years, but sees no problem in the biden gang receiving millions thru shell companies even though the bidens don't have a business.

 

Nobody can explain what they did to receive so much money.

 

At the same time the democrats & the liberals here keep their heads in the sand

Edited on Jun 24, 2023 10:12am
Originally posted by: tom

Joe had phone calls with Hunter. Got that? He had the audacity to communicate with his own son....on a telephone no less. There's no "pay" cited...or no resulting "play" cited

 

As usual pj misses the point.  For years joe denied having had any discussions with his son about his business dealings.  Turns out that he did & he lied about it.  Why?  Not only were there phone calls, there were meetings & trips on govt owned planes.  The DOJ & the IRS has decided not to investigate these potential crimes.  Attempts to search & question other biden homes & relatives were turned down.  But with Republicans the FBI sends in SWAT teams. With the Republican controlled House some of this  shady stuff is just coming to light

 

 

In 2017 biden was considered a leading candidate to run 2020 & was an influential member of the democratic party.  So making payments/investments to him was still a viable option for people trying to influence US policy.  Plus the biden gang had been receiving money for years while he was in office.

 

Pj gets his shorts in a bunch over people doing business with Trump's companies that have been in continuous operations for years, but sees no problem in the biden gang receiving millions thru shell companies even though the bidens don't have a business.

 

Nobody can explain what they did to receive so much money.

 

At the same time the democrats & the liberals here keep their heads in the sand


       PJ is a typical liberal - they will find/make up ANY excuse to condemn a conservative -  but will find any pitiful, moronic made up excuse for a law breaking DemocRat... 

OK - so Tom's point (?)  is its ok for civilian Donald Trump to get money from Saudi's, Russia and China both while in and out of office.   But if civilian Hunter Biden who has never served in the government does foreign business then its some kind of undefined  crime.  And if his father so much as talks to him on the phone then he also committed some undefined crime. 

 

And here's a fun fact that full-of-shit Tom will have to alter his story to accomodate -

Joe Biden did not even declare his candidacy for the 2020 election until April 25, 2019.  (   Facts suck, dont they Tom?      ) 

 

And here's another fun fact that full of shit Tom will have to alter his story to accomodate

- Joe Biden (unlike his predecessor that Tom supports) willingly offered his tax records to be examined by the public before his election.   And there were no super secret payments from shell companies or foreign interests.   

 

So in summary - if you are to believe Tom's bullshit fairy tale this is what you have to swallow:

- Foreign special interest groups gave Joe Biden money 3 years before his election and 2 years before he even declared himself a candidate

- They somehow gave him money that doesnt show up on any of his financial records

- Joe Biden must then have some  secret foreign  account somewhere that has this money in it

- The Trump DOJ who spent three years chasing Hunter Biden were really secret Deep State agents working to bury any evidence they found about him.  They buried all the evidence that Tom insists exists.

- Tom cant show any political favor President Joe Biden gave to these same interests now that he has been president for 2+ years.    

 

Tom insists there is "pay for play" politics but cant show a shred of evidence on either side of that equation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

Edited on Jun 24, 2023 11:32am
Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

You're so obsessed with the phrase "blacks aren't human", which you assign as common usage by every conservative on the planet..and you employ it incessantly. It's bullshit because it's not true to the degree you insinuate. It happens, but it's far from commonplace in this day and age. This ain't the 60's South anymore, Beatrice. Besides , do you really want to have a discussion about your party's historical attitude towards civil rights / slavery? EG the Southern Democrats and their influences pre and post Civil War/ reconstruction regarding Black Americans? What you claim on this issue in current times is at best mythical and outdated, honestly.

 

And the white male thing? You further assign that attitudinal label to all conservatives as well. The real truth is that there are assholes on both sides of the aisle (R's , D's, I's, L's on and on)..and within the electorate / citizenry. All of us are fallible. You probably should add "rich" to your denigration scheme; I could probably get behind part of that argument..as we all know that money talks and the rest walks in the grand majority of issues now.

 

Your tendency to blanketly assign all ills and wrongs to all conservatives is tyrannical in its base nature. There's little democracy, which you claim aspirations of preserving, in that attitude. Next we can argue about tyranny and its influences and those disdained 'traditional American values' you referred to. There's more freedom in the latter than you can see, apparently. Just don't ever assume that all 'change' is always for the better despite its inevitability.


"Traditional American values" includes a hearty endorsement of slavery and an emphatic rejection of the right of women to vote (the one delegate to the Constitutional Convention who suggested it was literally laughed out of the room). There were no whispers of a social safety net, universal health care, etc. Read the Alien and Sedition Act for an eye-opener. Et cetera. And let's not forget the idiot Electoral College, responsible for the recent Trump horror.

 

If Republicans do in fact consider blacks to be human and actual citizens, then why the incessant efforts to make it harder for them to vote, and for their votes not to count? Please answer that. And I don't really care about what the various parties did 150 years ago. I refer to, if you like, the Republican Party's postwar actions. Look up its rabid opposition to the Civil Rights Act for a real education.

 

The Republican Party's efforts to bolster white supremacy are well documented, as shown by its support of "replacement theory." Likewise, its idiot yeeping about CRT shows its contempt for nonwhites. Lastly, its nullification of the 14th Amendment with the horrid anti-abortion ruling shows how much it hates women and considers them to be inferior to males. Do you truly believe that none of that counts, and the Republicans actually believe in civil rights and equality for all?

 

Of course, not "all change is for the better." I would make the obvious counter that not "all change is for the worse." Neither statement is correct, but the latter is on the banner of the Republican Party. You may pooh-pooh it, but conservatism is brought about by a fundamental difference (I won't call it a defect) in brain chemistry: the fear response is heightened. And change is a strong trigger for fear and anxiety.

 

And since as you point out, change is constant and inevitable, conservatives live in a continual state of fear and agitation, which impels them to all the horrible things they say and do. I would be ashamed to ride in the same shortbus with them, and I suspect that you don't exactly feel proud about it.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

"Traditional American values" includes a hearty endorsement of slavery and an emphatic rejection of the right of women to vote (the one delegate to the Constitutional Convention who suggested it was literally laughed out of the room). There were no whispers of a social safety net, universal health care, etc. Read the Alien and Sedition Act for an eye-opener. Et cetera. And let's not forget the idiot Electoral College, responsible for the recent Trump horror.

 

If Republicans do in fact consider blacks to be human and actual citizens, then why the incessant efforts to make it harder for them to vote, and for their votes not to count? Please answer that. And I don't really care about what the various parties did 150 years ago. I refer to, if you like, the Republican Party's postwar actions. Look up its rabid opposition to the Civil Rights Act for a real education.

 

The Republican Party's efforts to bolster white supremacy are well documented, as shown by its support of "replacement theory." Likewise, its idiot yeeping about CRT shows its contempt for nonwhites. Lastly, its nullification of the 14th Amendment with the horrid anti-abortion ruling shows how much it hates women and considers them to be inferior to males. Do you truly believe that none of that counts, and the Republicans actually believe in civil rights and equality for all?

 

Of course, not "all change is for the better." I would make the obvious counter that not "all change is for the worse." Neither statement is correct, but the latter is on the banner of the Republican Party. You may pooh-pooh it, but conservatism is brought about by a fundamental difference (I won't call it a defect) in brain chemistry: the fear response is heightened. And change is a strong trigger for fear and anxiety.

 

And since as you point out, change is constant and inevitable, conservatives live in a continual state of fear and agitation, which impels them to all the horrible things they say and do. I would be ashamed to ride in the same shortbus with them, and I suspect that you don't exactly feel proud about it.


Nope..not in today's environment ( pertaining to slavery and women's voting rights). Are you kidding? What % of the population endorses those things?

 

The Civil Rights Act was simply a huge step forward for this country...albeit just a starting point.

 

I don't know what proportion of currently elected R's truly believe in civil rights ( or what % espouse it publicly until they get to the bar with their buddies). I don't know what proportion of R's among the citizenry support them, either. All I know is those that continue to oppress people/ethnicities by their actions ( and/or words, etc) are just wrong.

 

You've relied on that " conservatives are hindered by fear of change" for too long. In actuality, that argument reverts to the real issue that involves the pluses and minuses of change..the consequences of some changes outweigh the costs and real captured benefits for the general public. It's true..I'm not a proponent of willy - nilly change; I don't always get my way, though...no matter whom I vote for. Your physiological brain chemistry comment is weird and unsubstantiated. Where are the peer-reviewed medical journal articles that support your claim? I mean..who collected the blood samples, did the assays, and reported the results?

 

And please..what the hell is white supremacy? That buzz word / phrase is tossed around by the media and many leftists as if it represents an etiology for a forthcoming monstrous and widespread plague of some kind. How widespread are its members and their influences?  Is it all founded on the ideology that whites are a superior race and should dominate society? Hitler in action, so to speak? What proportion of this country's population falls into this category ( and the thirty or so subsets of it?). I can't find an answer to that question..how many are there? Biden called it " the greatest terrorist threat in our homeland"; show me the numbers, then. I'll just say that any hate faction that commits crimes or spreads propaganda against alternate ethnicities should pay the consequences via the law. I don't believe the incidence of these supremacists and their actions are anywhere near what they're purported to be..I'd like to see the true numbers, though ; I don't know what those numbers are. I'd wager that the number of Black Americans killed in Chicago by other Black Americans last year far outnumbered those that were killed by white supremacists and their assorted subsets in the same community. Next, we can argue about the influences of poverty on assorted hate crimes and crime in general..whom is doing what to whom?

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