The initial reason for the shutdown

By the way diblasio has a tattletale site for those not wearing masks. 

If you exclude the tristate area the US infections are pretty low. 

For example, Florida with a larger population than NY has only 40,000 cases. 

Meanwhile, back north the 2 idiots up in NY were encouraging people to go out & party well into March. Sick patients were dumped into nursing homes. Subways were not cleaned until May, 90 days after the first case in NY. 

The subway cities were and are hit the worst, but that is public transportation so we won't mention that.

Edited on May 10, 2020 6:08am

Here again we have a tribal issue where the FOX news junkies think they understand a topic better than the experts.    On one side you have the world's most celebrated pandemic expert, Dr Fauci.  And on FOX News you have the guy who cleans sewer pipes, Mike Rowe.     Guess whose opinon our resident conservatives more closely lines up with?

 

FOX News asks the plumber how to respond to a pandemic.

 

 

PJ, does Fauci consider the economic ramifications of his suggestions, or does he speak strictly on how to minimize virus deaths?  How about other scientists?  Do they have a broad view of the situation, or do they only evaluate one point of measure?

 

Here's an analogy.  A stroke patient goes into a hospital.  Doctors tell the guy that if he takes the drug tPA, he will likely regain some, most, or all the use of his left hand and arm.  There is a catch however, as there is a 7% chance that the drug will cause internal bleading in the brain or stomach, leading to death.  If he doesn't take the drug, his left arm will be useless for the balance of his life.  I just read that 75% of patients experiencing an acute stroke decide to take the risk.  Why would someone risk death?  Well, I assume it's a quality of life vs risk of death value assessment.

 

Shut the economy down for a year, and the quality of life in the United States for a couple of hundred million people will suffer.  Opening the economy is the prudent risk reward for the group.  Kevin disagrees, and I fully support his decision to lock himself with Joe Biden in the basement.  Of course, mommy will still serve Kevin TV dinner meals on a tray three times per day.

Edited on May 10, 2020 7:18am

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Here again we have a tribal issue where the FOX news junkies think they understand a topic better than the experts.    On one side you have the world's most celebrated pandemic expert, Dr Fauci.  And on FOX News you have the guy who cleans sewer pipes, Mike Rowe.     Guess whose opinon our resident conservatives more closely lines up with?

 

FOX News asks the plumber how to respond to a pandemic.

 

 


Pesident Trump has been followig Dr Fauci's recomendations since day 1..including major decisions like the lockdown and the extention of the lockdown.  PJ must therefore be very pleased with the President's response to the pandemic.  Afterall he's clearly following the advice of  'the world's most celebrated pandemic expert'.  Obviously, President Trump has worked tirelessly with the healthcare professionals and scientists at NIH, CDC, HHS and FDA.

 

“The first and only time that I went in and said we should do mitigation strongly, the response was, ‘yes, we’ll do it,’” Dr Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

 

Tribal issue indeed.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

PJ, does Fauci consider the economic ramifications of his suggestions, or does he speak strictly on how to minimize virus deaths?  How about other scientists?  Do they have a broad view of the situation, or do they only evaluate one point of measure?

 

Here's an analogy.  A stroke patient goes into a hospital.  Doctors tell the guy that if he takes the drug tPA, he will likely regain some, most, or all the use of his left hand and arm.  There is a catch however, as there is a 7% chance that the drug will cause internal bleading in the brain or stomach, leading to death.  If he doesn't take the drug, his left arm will be useless for the balance of his life.  I just read that 75% of patients experiencing an acute stroke decide to take the risk.  Why would someone risk death?  Well, I assume it's a quality of life vs risk of death value assessment.

 

Shut the economy down for a year, and the quality of life in the United States for a couple of hundred million people will suffer.  Opening the economy is the prudent risk reward for the group.  Kevin disagrees, and I fully support his decision to lock himself with Joe Biden in the basement.  Of course, mommy will still serve Kevin TV dinner meals on a tray three times per day.


I'll let you in on a secret...Mike Rowe is not an economist either.

 

I dont know any pandemic expert that says "shut the economy down for a year".  The CDC sent the WHite House its recommendations for reopneing the economy which the White House proceeded to throw in the garbage can.  

 

And thats how history will remeber this episode.   The WHite Hosue and its national propoganda media circuit ignored experts in favor of know-nothings with MAGA hats.   

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

I'll let you in on a secret...Mike Rowe is not an economist either.

 

I dont know any pandemic expert that says "shut the economy down for a year".  The CDC sent the WHite House its recommendations for reopneing the economy which the White House proceeded to throw in the garbage can.  

 

And thats how history will remeber this episode.   The WHite Hosue and its national propoganda media circuit ignored experts in favor of know-nothings with MAGA hats.   


The White House did not disregard the CDC, but instead also considered the damage being done to the economy.  This damage is not considered and is of no concern to the CDC.  They are a one trick pony, and you know that as much as I do.  Listening to only one group is not prudent.

The cdc report was a leaked draft that was sent back for revision. 

The media liked to pretend it was a final document, but the reality is that it wasn't 

As usual, the lying media made up another twisted unfactual bullshit story where there was none.

SNOPES

 

The White House lied....again...

and they got caught ....again....

The email paper trace showed the truth...again

 

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