Israel Vetos Trump’s peace plan the straight is closed again

The strait is open as of 30 minutes ago, with several million barrels of crude passing through over the weekend. Six million barrels alone were transported via three Saudi supertankers on Saturday. There's a backlog of course but crude tankers and some refined products are moving and labeled as the priority to replenish the global supply ( or begin to).

The above info is from Fortune.com  ( but there's a paywall).

Thanks for sharing this good news. Now, let's use actuarial methods to evaluate just how good it is 

For this situation to stabilize, three things have to occur and let's say, persist until the end of 2026;

1) Trump has to honor the agreement and not have another senior Trump moment and let slip the dogs of war.

2) Iran has to honor the agreement and not attack anybody.

3) Bibi has to rein in his bloodlust, or at least turn his fury back onto the Palestinians.

Now, this is a parlay bet if there ever was one. Let's do an extremely generous estimation and say that each of the above positive developments has a 1 in 3 chance of happening. So the chance of them ALL . happening is 1 in 27.

A bit less than a 4% chance of Peace in Our Time. Hey, it could happen!!

First to agree that this all is a day (or hour) at a time which I've suggested elsewhere.

So my earlier post was not wrong; Israel does NOT have a vote, other than the fact that Iran won't sign the deal until Israel get's off Lebanon's back.  Israel is not a signatory to the deal, just the US and Iran.

Candy

Well, if you put three mentally ill gorillas that all have rabies together in a cage, and check back in a day or so, you could find them sharing bananas and grooming each other. Let's hope so.

  Clearly and well spoken, Candy. If only others could look at the facts and not let their TDS control their narrative.

Yes, but you said "vote," not signatory status. As you say, unless Israel behaves, there ain't no peace deal that means anything. And they get to "vote" on whether or not they keep bombing Lebanon.

The situation is not unlike a century or so ago when two people wanted to get married, but the woman's father had to allow it, or no deal. So while supposedly, the couple decided whether or not to go through with it, the only "vote" that counted was her father's.

So yes, Israel isn't "voting" on the agreement. But since their yes or no is the only thing that matters, there is a de facto voter roll of exactly one. And that one voter is a raving, vengeful, aggressive lunatic supported by an evil, mind-crumbling old man.

Candy, What gives them veto power is they can decide at anytime they want to end the agreement by taking action or refusing to take action. The current example is Lebanon.  

The agreement calls for them to withdraw from Lebanon and to quit bombing them. They unilaterally decided not to abide by that and are refusing to end their occupation and quit bombing. Hence Iran saying they are going to block the straight again.

Isn't that what a veto is? Trump is the one that foolishly gave them that veto power over any agreement we make with Iran.

Yes they don't have a vote but they don't need one.

 Post a link to what you state here -  Trump is the one that foolishly gave them that veto power over any agreement we make with Iran.

David if you are too dumb to get it there is nothing I can do to help you.