Originally posted by: David Miller
Yes, a lot of pro life women will be voting in November - which means the death of the democRats
The recent Kansas vote suggests the opposite, as does tanking poll numbers for almost every RepubliQ candidate nationwide.
But we'll see, of course. One thing is certain: the RepubliQ has crippled their own chances. Without this Handmaid's Tale crusade, they'd have been heavy favorites everywhere.
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh
The Supreme Court debate is over. The Federalist society has overruled the previous Supreme COurt ruling and that is likely going to stand for decades or maybe even forever.
So now the debate moves to the states - just like Republicans wanted it to. Except now their irresponsible rhetoric isnt just a campaign pitch to uninformed, reliogus cult morons. Their rheotric has real consequences and we're already seeing them.
And maybe that makes the religous cult morons happy - but its not good politics for Republicans in future elections. Congratulations on catching the ambulance.
That's just it. The debate doesn't move to the states. If the Supreme Court wanted to move the debate to the States they simply would have allowed states to put whatever restrictions on abortion they wanted. However, they decided they wanted to remove abortion as a fundamental right.
Why do you think that is? It's so a future Republican Congress and Republican president can enact a nationwide abortion ban. Since it's no longer a fundamental right, it would be perfectly legal for them to do so. Don't fall into the trap of buying the conservative argument that it's a states right issue. They removed it as a fundamental right because they want to pass a nationwide abortion ban.
It's no more a states' rights issue than slavery being illegal is up to the states. SCOTUS overreached their authority. The Supreme Court does NOT have the power to nullify the 14th or any other Amendment; it therefore cannot grant that power to the states.
The utter rank hypocrisy here is that this is the same gang that is preventing the states from drafting their own interpretations of the 2nd Amendment, using the polar opposite of the argument they are now using to justify their ruling.
SCOTUS is no longer legitimate.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
Except for one thing: that statement would be contradictory. The Constitution says that the states do NOT have the right to decide whether their citizens have human rights or not.
Just because Kevin believes that an abortion is a human right doesn't make it so.
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh
The Supreme Court debate is over. The Federalist society has overruled the previous Supreme COurt ruling and that is likely going to stand for decades or maybe even forever.
So now the debate moves to the states - just like Republicans wanted it to. Except now their irresponsible rhetoric isnt just a campaign pitch to uninformed, reliogus cult morons. Their rheotric has real consequences and we're already seeing them.
And maybe that makes the religous cult morons happy - but its not good politics for Republicans in future elections. Congratulations on catching the ambulance.
What are you talking about? Who is the "Federalist Society?
Originally posted by: Mark
That's just it. The debate doesn't move to the states. If the Supreme Court wanted to move the debate to the States they simply would have allowed states to put whatever restrictions on abortion they wanted. However, they decided they wanted to remove abortion as a fundamental right.
Why do you think that is? It's so a future Republican Congress and Republican president can enact a nationwide abortion ban. Since it's no longer a fundamental right, it would be perfectly legal for them to do so. Don't fall into the trap of buying the conservative argument that it's a states right issue. They removed it as a fundamental right because they want to pass a nationwide abortion ban.
Mark, I'll write slowly. It's against constitutional law for the federal goverment to dictate anything to the states regarding abortion. Pro or Con.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Just because Kevin believes that an abortion is a human right doesn't make it so.
True. Read the decision in Roe v. Wade. That's what makes it so.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Mark, I'll write slowly. It's against constitutional law for the federal goverment to dictate anything to the states regarding abortion. Pro or Con.
The federal government can, should, and does "dictate to the states" on matters of the Constitution. The recent terrible SCOTUS decision does nothing to change that fact.
Originally posted by: Mark
That's just it. The debate doesn't move to the states. If the Supreme Court wanted to move the debate to the States they simply would have allowed states to put whatever restrictions on abortion they wanted. However, they decided they wanted to remove abortion as a fundamental right.
Why do you think that is? It's so a future Republican Congress and Republican president can enact a nationwide abortion ban. Since it's no longer a fundamental right, it would be perfectly legal for them to do so. Don't fall into the trap of buying the conservative argument that it's a states right issue. They removed it as a fundamental right because they want to pass a nationwide abortion ban.
I think Thats very much wishful thinking.
I can envision getting 60 Senators to agree on abortion access....I cant envison 60 Senators banning it at a National Level. Nevermind how hard it is to get 60 Senators in the frist place - but even if we had 60 Republican Senators they still would have the Susan COllins and Lisa Murkowskis to deal with. So they would really need more than 60.
And when the polls come out showing how incredibly unpopular it is at a national level Republicans will run away from that issue faster than their attempt to privatize Social Security.
Make no mistake, banning abortion is not a winning issue for Republicans going forward.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
What are you talking about? Who is the "Federalist Society?
Thats the activist group that chose our last three Supreme Court judges. Trump openly brags about it.
And I klnow you knew that. But thats ok. I'll play along.
