Mister Tough Guy starts a war

Originally posted by: Boilerman

The economic sanctions are Trump negotiations.  The bombing to kill the key general was Trump negotiating.  Are you too hate filled to see this?  No need to answer, as we know the answer.


Earlier you stated the deal is coming later....now you say the deal exists as the current sanctions/bombing.     

 

The former deal had all of our western allies and even Russia on board....and the new actions have alienated all of those entities.     And it’s yielded nothing accept stirring up a hornets nest and restarting Iran’s nuclear program.

 

another know-nothing chicken hawk starting wars in the Middle East.   I think anyone with a Maga hat should be required to fight on the front line.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Mexico, Canada, South Korea, and Japan.  Are you so filled with hate that you can't see this.


How have any of those countries "caved" to Trump's demands?

 

Canada imposed restrictions on lumber and fossil fuel exports to the US in retaliation for Trump's tariffs.

South Korea hasn't donr anything Trump demanded.

Neither has Japan.

Mexico has unequivocally told Trump to go fuck himself--in that exact language, officially.

 

The Orange Bully hasn't acomplished anything at all; in fact, he'd made our relations with other countries, Russis and North Korea excepted, much, much worse.

 

And you so blinded by Trump-love that you can't see that?

Originally posted by: Boilerman

The economic sanctions are Trump negotiations.  The bombing to kill the key general was Trump negotiating.  Are you too hate filled to see this?  No need to answer, as we know the answer.


So if I was sitting at a conference table discussing a business deal, and I pulled out a gun and shot a couple of guys on the other side, that would be a negotiating tactic?

 

Here's what's wrong with your childishly faulty logic. If Trump's stance toward Iran was "negotiable," he would have stated some conditions that he wanted Iran to fulfill. He hasn't communicated with them at all. They don't know what he wants from them. Hell, HE doesn't know what he wants from them. He isn't smart or focused enough to plan more than two days ahead.

 

I know you believe in the Bully-boy, but in the real world, bullying is not the same as negotiating, and it almost always fails as a tactic. Do you honestly, seriously think that Iran is now more inclined to negotiate now that Trump has done this?

 

Of course, they could come to us hat in hand, send Trump flowers, and agree to surrender unconditionally and give us free oil for fifty years. I somehow doubt that will happen, though.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Earlier you stated the deal is coming later....now you say the deal exists as the current sanctions/bombing.     

 

The former deal had all of our western allies and even Russia on board....and the new actions have alienated all of those entities.     And it’s yielded nothing accept stirring up a hornets nest and restarting Iran’s nuclear program.

 

another know-nothing chicken hawk starting wars in the Middle East.   I think anyone with a Maga hat should be required to fight on the front line.


Yes--and MAGA people should also refuse all government benefits, including the ones that Boilerman refuses to acknowledge that he gets. They should not seek medical care (and should be refused if they do).

 

I think if we rounded up all the Trumper assholes, gave them automatic rifles, loaded them on planes, and ferried them over to the Middle East, the problem would be solved. I'm not saying they would conquer the bad guys--quite the contrary; they'd be slaughtered. But that would indeed solve the problem! Then we could return to actual diplomacy.

 

By Boiler logic, whatever retaliation Iran chooses will also be part of the "deal." I hope Trump takes full credit for all the American deaths that result. I also hope that Boilerbaby takes credit as well. War is better than peace!


 In the meantime, while Iran continues to murder utilizing terrorism, Der Fuhrer would prefer that America ignore these crimes against humanity. Additionally, we could send Iran BILLIONS of dollars to expediate their nuclear bomb building while continuing to ignore the thousands of innocents and soldiers murdered. And don't forget to pucker up and kiss their terrorist asses - just like Der Fuhrer's Daddy Obama did. 

"I think anyone with a Maga hat should be required to fight on the front line."

They would all probably come down with bone spurs.

Just how many of you "tough guys" - Der Fuhrer, bbking, PJ, Mark - have served in the military?  None of you have a clue about the reality of fighting those who hate us - you just run your ignorant mouths and bask in the greatness of the United Stated that was and is defended by REAL men - not mouthy, liberal, lying keyboard commandos such as yourselves. 

Congratulations to Trump as a result of his actions we are formally being kicked out Iraq by the Iraquís. 

The newest developments:

 

1. As you mentioned, we're being kicked out of Iraq. Another former ally now hates our guts because of Trump.

2. Trump has threatened to bomb Iranian "religious and cultural sites" if they retaliate for his attack--never mind the fact that doing so would be a war crime and might lead to UN sanctions against the US.

3. Trump did not brief Congress before the attack. It might be an impeachable offense that Trump started a war without Congressional authority.

4. While Republicans are mostly defending Trump, there is some criticism. There will probably be more.

5. Gas prices are already skyrocketing. One can only imagine how much they will go up when Iran takes direct action.

6. Thousands of troops are being deployed to the Middle East. Does this have a "broken record" sound to it, boys and girls? We're going to the Middle East to make things all better and totally peaceful again, just like we always do! And we'll be back outta there in a few weeks! Really! No casualties, and only a paltry few billion dollars spent!

 

Bonus prediction: the money Trump spends on his Iran aggression will, by the time it's over, exceed the cost of his bigly Wall.

Edited on Jan 5, 2020 8:18pm

Funny, I did not hear/see this "outrage" and threat of impeachment when Obama and Hillary oversaw the killing of Saddam Hussein. Once again, fake media driven outrage - targeting the weak and feeble minded, like Der Fuhrer, bbking, and PJ.  I am not surprised.

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