Most Conservatives Hate The Truth And They Hate Democracy What About You?

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Tom requires a direct quote of Trump's order to storm the Capital in order for him to be guilty.   No such quote is required from Democrats for Tom's  other fairy tale.   And that really just tells you more about Tom than anything else.

 

And as I've already said:  The insurrection crowd has a collective narrative which says they were doing exactly what the president wanted them to do.   If Tom doesnt want to listen to the horse's mouth...or the people who fed them the lie...or the people who continue to feed them the lie...or people who purge leadership on the basis of confronting that lie...well, thats Tom's problem.       After all, there were black people  throwing rocks somewhere  so that makes a coup attempt on our democracy ok.

 

And as always, thanks for stopping by !


So Trump said the he wanted a peaceful demonstration, and Liberals hear that he wanted a riot.  How funny you guys are.  And this shit makes sense to you?

 

Next you'll tell me that the reason that illegal immigration is up 2000% is because of Trump.

Actually, Boiler, that 2000% number is utter bullshit, because people presenting themselves at the border seeking asylum is NOT the same as "illegal immigration." It is people legally petitioning the US government for temporary asylum status.

 

I'll state it simply for you. These people aren't immigrants, because they haven't immigrated. They aren't illegal, because they are obeying US law by applying peacefully and honestly for asylum.

 

And yes, Trump incited the Capitol riot, whether or not you want to acknowledge that simple reality.

 

DUHHHHH, Boiler.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

So Trump said the he wanted a peaceful demonstration, and Liberals hear that he wanted a riot.  How funny you guys are.  And this shit makes sense to you?

 

Next you'll tell me that the reason that illegal immigration is up 2000% is because of Trump.


Thats what the insurrectionists said...and Mitch McConnell too !    or as Boilerman likes or refer to them -  "Liberals"

Kevin now tells us that breaking the law is not illegal.  I'm hoping that he'll explain how people know what laws can legally be broken and what laws can not be legally broken.

Edited on May 16, 2021 7:41am

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Kevin now tells us that breaking the law is not illegal.  I'm hoping that he'll explain how people know what laws can legally be broken and what laws can not be legally broken.


Don't constantly lie, Boiler. I told you that presenting oneself at the US border and requesting asylum is not illegal. Are you too stupid to understand that?

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Thats what the insurrectionists said...and Mitch McConnell too !    or as Boilerman likes or refer to them -  "Liberals"


So, Trump's actual words carry no weight with you?  That's pretty dumb.  He told people to be peaceful, if you don't recall.

The insurrectioists words dont matter to you?  Thats pretty dumb.  They've come out and said why they did what they did and who they were acting on behalf of.   I listen to the horses' mouths 

 

And more importantly their current leaders in COngress are still feeding them the same lie.  You never answered Boilerman.  Which faction of the GOP are you aligned with? The Liz Cheney wing that acknowedlges the facts - or the Andrew Clyde wing that continues to  feed the radical mob?

Edited on May 17, 2021 7:00am
Originally posted by: Boilerman

So, Trump's actual words carry no weight with you?  That's pretty dumb.  He told people to be peaceful, if you don't recall.


Yeah. He said that word ONCE. He also used words like "fight hard," "fight like hell," and "show strength," over and over. Boilerboob, please tell me how an angry mob can "fight like hell" peacefully.

 

Conservitards love to seize on that ONE sentence as somehow proving that Trump wasn't inciting violence. It's called taking words out of context. If he really wanted his goons to be peaceful, why didn't he say that several times? Why did he repeatedly tell them to be violent and aggressive?

 

Also...the slimy little coward said he would be "with them" as they marched to destroy democracy--except that he wasn't, he scurried home to watch it on TV. This is the man you worship, Boiler.

 

This has already been hashed out over and over, so I won't waste any more time on it. You'll LUVVVV Trump until the day you die, no matter what horrible things he says or does. That makes you a pretty disgusting person.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

The insurrectioists words dont matter to you?  Thats pretty dumb.  They've come out and said why they did what they did and who they were acting on behalf of.   I listen to the horses' mouths 

 

And more importantly their current leaders in COngress are still feeding them the same lie.  You never answered Boilerman.  Which faction of the GOP are you aligned with? The Liz Cheney wing that acknowedlges the facts - or the Andrew Clyde wing that continues to  feed the radical mob?


Boiler's firmly with the RepubliQ Jewish space laser the election was stolen Trump is a god bunch.

 

I wonder just what sort of person observes Trump's actions and falls in love with him, rather than being utterly repulsed. Boiler's Trump-love is truly sick. Not to mention really, really stupid.

 

Boiler won't say whether Liz Cheney is speaking the truth or not. At least the RepubliQ politicians admit their evil, stupid lies. Boiler's too much of a weasel to even do that. Embrace your right-wing radicalism, Boiler. Don't deny it. Admit to us and yourself who you really are.

Any immigration attorney's on this site?   I know some terms:  Immigrant, migrant, asylum, residency, just some of the systems that serve to LEGALLY accept persons into the US under various conditions.   I doubt we are all experts on the subjects.  

 

Trump cut the number (there was/is an official number, folks, not just y'all come on) back in...when...2017?  Now Biden pronounced his intent to increase that number back to where it was.  But he acknowledged while he'd like to, it can't be accomplished any time soon. 

 

Applications for legal entry can take years to be approved.  The pandemic is just one factor that set this even further back.  Applications must be vetted by trained officials.  Applicants themselves must be interviewed in person which may mean immigration application processors (here and in those countries) may have to travel to interview the applicant.   Years long processes in many cases.  This practically ceased during the pandemic, setting many applicants years behind when they projected they'd be able to come in.  Now gearing back up but like every other agency they lost personnel, have to re-hire, retrain (similar problem with census takers, but I digress).  Basically fewer resources to insure those coming in have actual resources, jobs/job potential, family, etc. so they aren't immediately on the street, i.e. snuck in illegally, and the cycle of mugging/jail/mugging/jail/robbing/killing begins. 

 

Biden's pronouncement was easy to make, but how possible to bring about?  Not much any time soon.  And he knew that.  But great sound bite.

 

The "illegal" label is what gets us all stirred up.  I don't think either, or any, POTUS campaigns on a platform to encourage illegal immigration. 

 

JMHO

 

OOPS, I put this in the wrong thread.  Oh, well.

 

Candy

Edited on May 17, 2021 8:27am
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