Oil prices are already falling -What will the media and DemocRATs find to bitch about next?

Originally posted by: Nines

@ PJ:

That's fine but three years isn't a permanent deal. Yeah, Trump withdrew from the JCPOA because of what the intelligence sources were reporting regarding Iran's enrichment activities. Iran APPARENTLY didn't honor the tenets of the agreement ( I wasn't there and don't know the details or the factual truth). I'm not suggesting that some of the motivation for that withdrawal was for completely nonpolitical reasons; Trump likes to be under the lights, granted. We'll never know just how close Iran was to an actual worrisome enrichment level before all this current conflict started. It's difficult to believe all the narratives from both politicians and the media, it's as if sometimes we just have to wait until the shit hits the proverbial fan to know the truth? 

 

You refer to the reported negotiations we've all observed in the past ..what..2-3 months? A very large joke in terms of what we were fed ..extension after extension after extension. We were in the dark intentionally, imo. One question remains..can we trust Iran? There's a lot of evidence showing that we ultimately can't, imo.


I'd do some fact checking on that whole "Trump withdrew because of intelligence sources reporting Iran's enrichment activities.".

 

Trump campaigned in 2016 on killing the Iran Nuclear deal on day 1 because it was the worst deal made in the history of mankind, or something.      Iran by all accounts was complying with the deal right up until Trump threw it out.

 

Ever since that time Republicans and FOX News have gone on a propoganda-hisotry-rewriting exercise trying to say it was Iran who cheated.    Thats complete BS.

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

I'd do some fact checking on that whole "Trump withdrew because of intelligence sources reporting Iran's enrichment activities.".

 

Trump campaigned in 2016 on killing the Iran Nuclear deal on day 1 because it was the worst deal made in the history of mankind, or something.      Iran by all accounts was complying with the deal right up until Trump threw it out.

 

Ever since that time Republicans and FOX News have gone on a propoganda-hisotry-rewriting exercise trying to say it was Iran who cheated.    Thats complete BS.

 

 

 

 


 Horseshit.

From July 2016

 

https://www.cfr.org/articles/iran-cheating-nuclear-deal

 

Last week, Germany’s intelligence agency produced a report detailing Iranian cheating. Here is an excerpt from the news story: Germany’s domestic intelligence agency said in its annual report that Iran has a “clandestine” effort to seek illicit nuclear technology and equipment from German companies “at what is, even by international standards, a quantitatively high level.” The findings by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, Germany’s equivalent of the FBI, were issued in a 317-page report last week.

SO what?

 

You've been telling me for over a year Iran was enriching uranium outside the agreement of the Obama Deal prior to Trump taking office.       Thats BS

 

Your big ace in the hole now is that Iran had spies doing inquiries about nuclear equipment?   

Thats pretty weak.

 

Once Trump tore up the deal Iran went back to full fledged enrichment towards weapons grade uranium.  That simply was not happening prior.    Try again.

Edited on Jun 16, 2026 3:13pm

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

SO what?

 

You've been telling me for over a year Iran was enriching uranium outside the agreement of the Obama Deal prior to Trump taking office.       Thats BS

 

Your big ace in the hole now is that Iran had spies doing inquiries about nuclear equipment?   

Thats pretty weak.

 

Once Trump tore up the deal Iran went back to full fledged enrichment towards weapons grade uranium.  That simply was not happening prior.    Try again.


 Oh horseshit. Those murdering animals have been enriching uranium for years. You are such a TDFS infected dumb bastard that you refuse to accept reality.  

Originally posted by: David Miller

 Oh horseshit. Those murdering animals have been enriching uranium for years. You are such a TDFS infected dumb bastard that you refuse to accept reality.  


Well maybe you can find something on Facebook that backs your buillshit up.    Nobody else on your side has been able to find anything.    

 

How many times have you posted on here about the huge travisty of Obama allowing Iran access to its own money as part of the deal?  Trump has already conceded 300 Billion.    And the real negotiations havent started yet.    I left lots of space for you or one of your inbred Facebook friends to cry about it.

 

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Well maybe you can find something on Facebook that backs your buillshit up.    Nobody else on your side has been able to find anything.    

 

How many times have you posted on here about the huge travisty of Obama allowing Iran access to its own money as part of the deal?  Trump has already conceded 300 Billion.    And the real negotiations havent started yet.    I left lots of space for you or one of your inbred Facebook friends to cry about it.

 


 In answer to your question - Never.    President Trump has conceded nothing. If so, prove it. You can't so shut your lying mouth. The only "space" here is between your ears....

Originally posted by: David Miller

 In answer to your question - Never.    President Trump has conceded nothing. If so, prove it. You can't so shut your lying mouth. The only "space" here is between your ears....


It took me 30 seconds to Google and refute your first sentence.    Not only are you stupid, David...you're also a massive over-the-top liar.    Congratulations.

 

 

 

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/forums/kitchen-sink/wait-what-biden-and-yellen-gave-iran-3-1-2-billion-dollars/

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

It took me 30 seconds to Google and refute your first sentence.    Not only are you stupid, David...you're also a massive over-the-top liar.    Congratulations.

 

 

 

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/forums/kitchen-sink/wait-what-biden-and-yellen-gave-iran-3-1-2-billion-dollars/


  Well moron, I never SAID it - I POSTED it.   There is a B-I-G difference. Now apologize for lying.

Originally posted by: tom

With effort the US could have reopened the Strait but Iran could not stop the US blockade 


Nonsense. No country would send a ship through the Strait if it could be fired upon by Iran.

 

And if Trump promised to keep it open? I think even you know what Trump's promises are worth. Not to mention the hundreds of billions it would cost us every month to maintain a military presence there permanently. Iran knows that. You keep yeeping about the Turd War's financial damage to Iran, but guess what, Tommy boy--we're getting reamed out as well. It's closing in on a trillion dollars so far. And gee, I know you hate TERRIBUL GUMMINT SPENDIN.

 

Admit it, MAGA Tom. We don't have the power, the resources, or the will to seize control of the Strait from Iran.

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