Old Town Chicago.

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

No, not necessarily but these cities just might want to try something new.  It clearly isn't currently working.  

 

Did Kevin teach MP third grade by chance?


Isn't working compared to what? Some utopian ideal?

 

It's obviously possible to paint as rosy or as bleak a picture as one wishes. I have a little bit of perspective, in that I'm a bit of an amateur historian and history was my minor in college. So I KNOW that life in America's cities is better than it used to be--in many aspects, much better.

 

One other thing I know, and so should you--any "elect us and we'll fix everything" claims by the RepubliQ or anyone else are pure moonshine. Now, reverse-engineer your thinking: are the problems City X is experiencing due to the foul perfidy and incompetence of the political party "running" it (as Boilerboob, stupid Tommie-poo, etc. claim), or are they due to the fact that a city is a large, extremely complex social mechanism and the only time it WOULDN'T have problems is if everyone was dead?

 

The NYC budget is $101b. NYC is not lacking for funding. 

NYC has lost over 300,000 people since 2020. Other Democratic cities are also losing population. But in the delusional world of the Lva squad all is well. 

A new thing now in NYC, banks are closing their atm lobbies at night because of homeless sleeping in the lobbies are creating a dangerous problem. 

 

Originally posted by: tom

The NYC budget is $101b. NYC is not lacking for funding. 

NYC has lost over 300,000 people since 2020. Other Democratic cities are also losing population. But in the delusional world of the Lva squad all is well. 

A new thing now in NYC, banks are closing their atm lobbies at night because of homeless sleeping in the lobbies are creating a dangerous problem. 

 


I have a  fantastic idea. 

 

Cities can do what Republican suburbs do:  ship all of their homeless, runaways, and halfway house population to areas run by the other party....and then complain about how those areas are overrun with homeless, indigent and paroled ex-cons.    

 

Who's with me ?

 

 

Originally posted by: tom

The NYC budget is $101b. NYC is not lacking for funding. 

NYC has lost over 300,000 people since 2020. Other Democratic cities are also losing population. But in the delusional world of the Lva squad all is well. 

A new thing now in NYC, banks are closing their atm lobbies at night because of homeless sleeping in the lobbies are creating a dangerous problem. 

 


And exactly how would you know whether that budget amount is adequate? You say, "gosh, that's a big number" and that's the extent of your thinking?

 

A reduction in a city's population isn't a bad thing if there's a housing shortage. But I'm sure that even stupid Tommie-poo knows that such reductions are primarily due to people permanently shifting to remote work due to the pandemic.


Pj - where have Republicans moved homeless to Democratic cities?

 

Florida has almost 3x the population of nyc & a slightly larger budget. NYC spends more person than any other city, so it is obvious their budget is out of line

 

Stupid Kevin, remote work has nothing to do with people moving out of the city. If the city was healthy they would still be in the city.  Instead they have chosen to leave. 

Originally posted by: tom

Pj - where have Republicans moved homeless to Democratic cities?

 

Florida has almost 3x the population of nyc & a slightly larger budget. NYC spends more person than any other city, so it is obvious their budget is out of line

 

Stupid Kevin, remote work has nothing to do with people moving out of the city. If the city was healthy they would still be in the city.  Instead they have chosen to leave. 


Everywhere.

 

If you are homeless and sleeping in a park in the suburbs you get picked up by the police an sent to the homeless shelter IN THE CITY.      Thats true everywhere in the country.     

 

So why dont we put the homeless shelter next to the Del Webb golf course community out in MikePence-ville ?

Cause they wont allow zoning for it.    

 

Suburbs send their unwanted indigents to the cities and then bitch about indigents in the cities.   Just like they flood the streets with guns and then bitch about gun violence.      Must be noce to press a button and throw away problems.   Somebody ultimately has to deal with them....and it sure as hell isnt going to be the Del Webb home owners associattion.    They're good at complaining, though.

One of the towns near where I live got caught dumping the homeless at the rest area.  Whenever a homeless person came into town the city PD would pick them up and drive them 15 miles down the interstate and drop them off at the rest area. 

 

And yes homeless people in rural areas are a thing. A lot of them live out of their cars and simply drive from one parking lot to the next only moving on when they get kicked out. The ones that don't have vehicles move around by catching rides with people typically truckers and often in exchange for sexual favors. 

Originally posted by: tom

Pj - where have Republicans moved homeless to Democratic cities?

 

Florida has almost 3x the population of nyc & a slightly larger budget. NYC spends more person than any other city, so it is obvious their budget is out of line

 

Stupid Kevin, remote work has nothing to do with people moving out of the city. If the city was healthy they would still be in the city.  Instead they have chosen to leave. 


I can't help it if you're ignorant of this phenomenon. You live in NYC? It's the reason behind a record volume of office space vacancies.

 

It's not a matter of "if the city was healthy." Many people live in the city not because they love it there, but in order to be closer to their jobs. Make those jobs remote and there's less reason to pay those high rents. And the pandemic created a lot of remote work opportunities.

 

Jesus, stupid Tommie-poo, this is so basic and obvious, I'm beginning to doubt that you live in NYC at all.

Originally posted by: Mark

One of the towns near where I live got caught dumping the homeless at the rest area.  Whenever a homeless person came into town the city PD would pick them up and drive them 15 miles down the interstate and drop them off at the rest area. 

 

And yes homeless people in rural areas are a thing. A lot of them live out of their cars and simply drive from one parking lot to the next only moving on when they get kicked out. The ones that don't have vehicles move around by catching rides with people typically truckers and often in exchange for sexual favors. 


Interesting that communities in many states have determined that a person's mere presence somewhere isn't a violation of the law. In other words, everyone has the right to walk around in public spaces and breathe the air. In many jurisdictions, this has been determined to include sleeping, a basic human activity.

 

This immediately triggers conservitard dog whistles, but in point of fact "that bum sleeping on the sidewalk" has just as much right to use that sidewalk as I do to walk on it. It's a public space.

 

The shitkicker towns in the goober states have always had "vagrancy" laws that criminalize a person's mere presence in Gooberville. But repeated court challenges have found those laws to be a violation of human rights. I know it upsets the goobers to see a homeless person, but none of us has the right to dictate what or who can or can't be in public spaces. You don't like it, go home (to your private dwelling) and slam the door behind you.

 

I personally would rather live in a community that shows compassion for the homeless rather than criminalizing them, even if that means I see more homeless people than they do in Gooberville.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

So the do-nothing  police force is policing?  Thats a big admission from you.

And you're blaming retail stress on black people instead of the pandemic?....which one of your friends told you that?      

 

You've come along way from your original thread.   Your claims of rampant assault and battery have been reduced to you witnessing a traffic violation...Only now you have a new set of allegations against black people which you did not witness.   "Bumping into tables" this time.   Thats big.


Much of this BLM crowd is white people, so your premise is wrong in that regard.

 

You misinterpret my comments about the Chicago police.  While they are thwarting a problem in one place, the same group then pops up elsewhere.  The Chicago cops need to be instructed to take a heavy hand with these radicals.  When they intentionally bump into a table, and spill drinks, cops need to kick some ass and make arrests.  Let the jury look at security film and decide if the punk is accidently spilling drinks.

 

Chicago cops need to show muscle and with the support of Chicago leaders.  The pussifying of the police prosecutors departments has lead to this sort of punk behavior.  Put an end to it now.

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