Spirit Airlines has shut down all operations, canceling all flights and leaving travelers scrambling.

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

Yes I understand under current law mergers have to be approved by the federal government. 

 

The thing is in this case the merger had already been approved by the federal government. They already got the green light. At that point it should be done. 

 

The federal government should not sue to prevent a merger that the federal government already approved.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


That is absolutely not what happened. Spirit had agreed to merge with Frontier. The DOJ said ok because they were both ULCCs. 

Jet Blue realizing their business model was dying, made a hostile offer for Spirit. Spirit said this isn't going to work as the DOJ won't approve it and our business models aren't compatible. The DOJ officially said we aren't going to approve this. Despite multiple statements of formal disapproval from Spirit, Frontier and the DOJ, Jet Blue's CEO thumped his chest and said I don't care I am making this happen. It was the hight of both incompetence and hubris.

It turned out to be a disaster just like Spirit, the DOJ and Frontier said it would be. Jet Blue delt a fatal blow to Spirit with that failed take over attempt and left themselves in hospice care.

 

 If I were Jet Blue's hospice nurse, I would smother them with a pillow right now because frankly that is what they deserve. We would have had a very healthy and massive ULCC, Frontier, if Jet Blue hadn't interfered. 

 

Gary from View From The Wing was full of shit on this one. When Jet Blue announced their intentions towards Spirit Gary went full on shill. I suspect he was being paid to talk it up or at the very least was as big of a Jet Blue fanboy as David Miller is a fan boy for Trump. 

 

Jet Blue was the root cause of a horrible outcome for consumers, Spirit, Jet Blue and Frontier. Jet Blue's management should be banned from future employment in the US airline industry because of all the destruction they caused.

 

 

 

Originally posted by: Mark

That is absolutely not what happened. Spirit had agreed to merge with Frontier. The DOJ said ok because they were both ULCCs. 

Jet Blue realizing their business model was dying, made a hostile offer for Spirit. Spirit said this isn't going to work as the DOJ won't approve it and our business models aren't compatible. The DOJ officially said we aren't going to approve this. Despite multiple statements of formal disapproval from Spirit, Frontier and the DOJ, Jet Blue's CEO thumped his chest and said I don't care I am making this happen. It was the hight of both incompetence and hubris.

It turned out to be a disaster just like Spirit, the DOJ and Frontier said it would be. Jet Blue delt a fatal blow to Spirit with that failed take over attempt and left themselves in hospice care.

 

 If I were Jet Blue's hospice nurse, I would smother them with a pillow right now because frankly that is what they deserve. We would have had a very healthy and massive ULCC, Frontier, if Jet Blue hadn't interfered. 

 

Gary from View From The Wing was full of shit on this one. When Jet Blue announced their intentions towards Spirit Gary went full on shill. I suspect he was being paid to talk it up or at the very least was as big of a Jet Blue fanboy as David Miller is a fan boy for Trump. 

 

Jet Blue was the root cause of a horrible outcome for consumers, Spirit, Jet Blue and Frontier. Jet Blue's management should be banned from future employment in the US airline industry because of all the destruction they caused.

 

 

 


I will have to look into that. I was mostly going by the article Max quoted. Max usually posts accurate and reliable articles. I will do more checking. 

Biden did the right thing to cancel out a Trump policy move. Every single thing the Turd has done during his two terms should be reversed/canceled out/declared unlawful by the federal government.

 

The German government in 1954 issued a blanket decree that every single law that had been passed/enacted by the Nazis was off the books and no longer in effect. That was already the practical case, but it needed to be stated formally.

 

We have a similar need now, but no doubt it will take a national disaster and regime change to make it happen--just like in Nazi Germany.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Biden did the right thing to cancel out a Trump policy move. Every single thing the Turd has done during his two terms should be reversed/canceled out/declared unlawful by the federal government.

 

The German government in 1954 issued a blanket decree that every single law that had been passed/enacted by the Nazis was off the books and no longer in effect. That was already the practical case, but it needed to be stated formally.

 

We have a similar need now, but no doubt it will take a national disaster and regime change to make it happen--just like in Nazi Germany.


  This is one of the reasons Spirit has gone bankrupt -  May be an image of aircraft and text that says 'কেদা spr ............ 6лRa spirit spirit.com com Read the article at Baby BabylonBee.com Spirit Airlines Announces They Will Tell You Why They Went Bankrupt For An Added Fee Of $50'


Originally posted by: David Miller

  This is one of the reasons Spirit has gone bankrupt -  May be an image of aircraft and text that says 'কেদা spr ............ 6лRa spirit spirit.com com Read the article at Baby BabylonBee.com Spirit Airlines Announces They Will Tell You Why They Went Bankrupt For An Added Fee Of $50'


Hahaha

Spirit went bankrupt because it consistently was ranked at the bottom. 

Originally posted by: tom

Spirit went bankrupt because it consistently was ranked at the bottom. 


Being "ranked at the bottom," whatever that is supposed to mean, doesn't affect a company's profitability. People hated to use Spirit (myself included), but they filled a market niche that no one else did. Spirit had a unique market share.

 

The cheapest product or service offered is usually the lowest quality. That doesn't mean it won't sell.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Being "ranked at the bottom," whatever that is supposed to mean, doesn't affect a company's profitability. People hated to use Spirit (myself included), but they filled a market niche that no one else did. Spirit had a unique market share.

 

The cheapest product or service offered is usually the lowest quality. That doesn't mean it won't sell.


But it wasn't really the cheapest. It just pretended to be. I never flew spirit or frontier. The reason why is every time I checked pricing, by the time I added the fee for a carry-on bag, The cost was the same or higher than other airlines. Especially if I wanted the "luxury" of picking an aisle seat. 

 

Sure if I had wanted to go somewhere and not bring a carry-on bag it may have been cheaper but when comparing apples to apples it just wasn't. 

 

Of course that is my limited anecdotal experience.

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

But it wasn't really the cheapest. It just pretended to be. I never flew spirit or frontier. The reason why is every time I checked pricing, by the time I added the fee for a carry-on bag, The cost was the same or higher than other airlines. Especially if I wanted the "luxury" of picking an aisle seat. 

 

Sure if I had wanted to go somewhere and not bring a carry-on bag it may have been cheaper but when comparing apples to apples it just wasn't. 

 

Of course that is my limited anecdotal experience.


Mine, too, but what you describe is just an aspect of their mismanagement. The core market concept was sound. It was quite possible to travel dirt cheap if you were willing to endure a few hours of inconvenience and discomfort. 

 

BTW, people always evaded the carry-on restriction by bringing the allowed "personal items" that were ultimately the same size or larger. I remember a hilarious moment when a passenger strained to stuff his "personal item" bag into the box at the gate that was supposed to determine whether such an item was small enough.

 

My point is that some people just want to get from here to there and are perfectly willing to put up with a complete lack of amenities. I don't think Spirit should have charged for carry-ons or differentiated among seat locations. They should have just charged you $50 or whatever to get on the bus with whatever and sit wherever. The Greyhound of the skies. Their planes would always have been full.

Being "ranked at the bottom," whatever that is supposed to mean, doesn't affect a company's profitability.

 

It doesn't matter if you are the cheapest; if you have a lousy product people won't use it; thus out of business

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