Sweden and Covid

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53498133

 

Pretty good article that sums up the grade Sweden gets for its response.   There economy did suffer less than its neighbors...but their death rate was much higher too (about the same as ours).     But their hospitals were not overwhelmed like ours have been (and still are)

 

My take on it is this:   Sweden  largely made it voluntary for their population to follow guidelines for protection, social distancing...and their population overwhelmingly complied.     BY contrast we did the same thing but our population in large part did not comply.  And the non-compliance was led by our President and the propoganda networks that put his message out.

 

So the lesson is - we could be in the same place now with the virus with a much better economy.  It just required better leadership that did not undermine science.


From what I've read, only 20% of Sweds have been wearing masks during social interactions.

 

Originally posted by: Boilerman

PJ, I agree that the US response was a mistake.  99% Liberals agree with the shut down of the economy.  Do you agree with the shut down of the economy?


The economy was NOT "shut down." It continued to function, albeit more slowly.

 

The word "liberals" should not be capitalized.

Originally posted by: David Miller

Extrapolated out comparing deaths to population - if Sweden had 328.2 milliom people (like the US currently does) their death total would be 189,092 thousand- compared to the 160,000 thousand deaths currently in the U.S.  If Italy had 328.2 million people their death toll would be on par with Sweden @ 190009 deaths.These numbers speak to PJ's erroneous claim. These numbers also speak for themselves and are undisputable.


Hmm, Sweden's death toll would be 189,092 thousand---as in, over 189 million? And the US has 160,000 thousand deaths--as in, 160 million? Will the last person left please turn out the lights?

 

Must be right! After all, you told us that your numbers speak for themselves and are indisputable. Whenever you say something is the absolute truthy truth, well, that's the end of the discussion!

The population of the U.S is 328.2 million - not 160 million. Aparently someone needs help with reading comprehension. And yes, the numbers DO speak for themself.

Edited on Aug 7, 2020 12:16pm

Originally posted by: Boilerman

PJ, I agree that the US response was a mistake.  99% Liberals agree with the shut down of the economy.  Do you agree with the shut down of the economy?


 "liberals" did not shut down our economy.        

 

Our mistake had nothing to do with opening or closing the economy....our mistake was being led

by a  president who ridiculed his own experts, defyed their recommendations, silenced their voices and spread conspiracy theories thereby making fighting the disease a partisan political issue.   

 

 

And the data doesn't lie.

 

 

The Graphic Truth: Two different pandemics - EU vs US - GZERO Media

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

     

 

 

Originally posted by: David Miller

The population of the U.S is 328.2 million - not 160 million. Aparently someone needs help with reading comprehension. And yes, the numbers DO speak for themself.


You said DEATHS, not population--speaking of reading comprehension. And it's "themselves," not "themself." In point of fact, there is no such word as "themself." Even where you come from.

 

I pity you for your cognitive decline. But take heart that you're in sync with Trump.

 

By the way, didn't you promise to go away, never to return? I knew you were lying about that--that you wouldn't be able to stay away. I applaud your three or four weeks of self-control, though.

It is still obvious that you are too ignorant to understand English. 

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

 "liberals" did not shut down our economy.        

 

Our mistake had nothing to do with opening or closing the economy....our mistake was being led

by a  president who ridiculed his own experts, defyed their recommendations, silenced their voices and spread conspiracy theories thereby making fighting the disease a partisan political issue.   

 

 

And the data doesn't lie.

 

 

The Graphic Truth: Two different pandemics - EU vs US - GZERO Media

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

     

 

 


PJ, the only reason Boiler even brought this up is to support his ongoing idiotic plan of open up completely, no precautions at all, let's have as many deaths as possible and get it over with. He thinks that that's what Sweden did.

 

He smokes in public and has told us repeatedly that he will never wear a mask. He must be at least a tiny bit ashamed of his irresponsible behavior to piece together his rambling babble about Sweden. And of course, he continues to blame "liberals" for everything that's happened--without even being able to spell the word!

 

If he were one of my third graders, I'd flunk him. Then I'd have a long talk with the teacher who promoted him from second grade. Thank God most people have a bit more common decency and common sense than he does.

Uh huh. Don't admit you were foolishly wrong. (160,000 thousand deaths!) That would be unmanly.

 

And by the way, don't admit that you lied when you said you were never coming back to the Sink. That would also be unmanly.

Edited on Aug 7, 2020 3:54pm

Currently their have been recorded 160,000 deaths in the U.S. Try reading what I posted. You are wrong, again. 

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