Texas Gov. Abbott signs bill banning gender-affirming care for minors

It's about taking total control of everything in a fascist manner. We make fun of the idiot MAGAs but the truth is the establishment Republicans are driving this fascist takeover.

 

Mark - correct statement; wrong party.

 

Since biden took over, various democratic local, state & federal governments have decided which cars we buy, what companies we invest in, what races & sexes of job candidates we hire, which demographic groups get targeted for ballot collection, mandated untested vaccines, randomly closed businesses & schools, which headlines get labeled as misinformation and what type of medical & scientific  research gets funded.

Edited on Jun 5, 2023 12:25pm
Originally posted by: Boilerman

Wow, we don't think that babies should be killed because the mother doesn't wish to be inconvenienced.

 

How radical.


Abortions don't kill babies. It's impossible to abort a baby.

Originally posted by: tom

It's about taking total control of everything in a fascist manner. We make fun of the idiot MAGAs but the truth is the establishment Republicans are driving this fascist takeover.

 

Mark - correct statement; wrong party.

 

Since biden took over, various democratic local, state & federal governments have decided which cars we buy, what companies we invest in, what races & sexes of job candidates we hire, which demographic groups get targeted for ballot collection, mandated untested vaccines, randomly closed businesses & schools, which headlines get labeled as misinformation and what type of medical & scientific  research gets funded.


Nonsense.

 

Stupid Tommie-poo.

Post your sources, Tom.  The government has never decided which cars we can buy However, it has always regulated what car manufacturers have to do if they want to sell cars.  Are you advocating returning to days of not having mandatory airbags and seatbelts? No crash testing?  Is mounting the fuel tank on the back bumper ok with you?  Do you want to put the lead back into the gas? How about a car with no headlights or turn signals? 

 

The what companies to invest in is an interesting point. Private investment companies have decided it is good to have investment options that are, for lack of a better word, green-friendly. They have been a runaway success.  Now Red States are trying to ban the option of having green-friendly investment options. This is the exact opposite of what you claim. Conservatives are dictating, by passing laws, that we can't have green-friendly investment options for those that want them because conservatives don't like them. 

 

Where has the Biden administration dictated which race we have to hire? Show the proof with a link Tom.

 

Yes, during a pandemic they mandated vaccines for people that worked in certain fields like the medical profession.  How terrible lol. When I started grade school many moons ago my parents were given a list of mandated vaccines I had to have before I would be allowed to enroll in public school in a conservative state.  It was an entirely reasonable thing back in the early 1970s and it is an entirely reasonable thing now. 

 

The government has never mandated what gets labeled disinformation.  That was always left up to the discretion of private businesses. Private business labels information disinformation because it keeps them from getting sued like FOX News, News Max and other conservative media outlets that intentionally spread disinformation that often leads to multi-million dollar lawsuits for defamation. 

 

The government has always decided which research gets funded by government dollars so that is nothing new. 

 

On the other hand in some red states...

 

1.  If you are female you can be forced to bear the child of your rapist, forced into financially supporting the child to adulthood and finally forced into an 18-year relationship where you have to regularly deal with your rapist in the child's upbringing. 

 

2.  If you are a teenage female the state of Florida has mandatory period tracking if you participate in any sports or other extracurricular activities to make sure you don't flee the state to get an abortion. 

 

3.  In a lot of red states if you are pregnant but the child isn't viable you are forced to risk your own life to carry the baby anyway.  It is incredibly sick and cruel to force birth upon a child that has no chance of survival and will only know pain and misery during its brief life.  And there have been a lot of cases like these popping up in the news. 

 

4.  You are forbidden to mention that gay people simply exist in school. 

 

5.  You can not be taught about Jim Crow laws and the Civil Rights movement because it might offend some white snowflake child. 

 

6.  It is mandated that you be taught a false history that the US government was never a racist institution.

 

7. Books can be banned and are regularly banned at the request of just one loan-conservative snowflake in the community.

 

8.  Dressing in Drag is considered an obscene performance. 

 

9.  The state government should dictate what medical treatment is appropriate for your teenager, not you, your family, your doctor and your teenager. 

 

10.  If you are a private business and you don't like a policy the government is enacting you can expect to be singled out for punishment by the state government for simply publically disagreeing with the policy. 

 

11.  Blue cities had their governing of local elections taken away from them and given to the state government while every red county and city government gets to keep running their own elections. 

 

12.  Elected officials, often minorities, can be illegally removed from their elected positions by using red state police forces because conservates in the state simply don't like them. 

 

13. Election results in blue areas can be thrown out simply because conservatives don't like the results. 

 

14. They think someone that has been charged with 34 felonies related to election fraud is an appropriate person to lead the county. Not to mention by the time it is all said and done Trump may face as many as 100+ felony charges most of which are offenses committed in furtherance of election fraud.  Yet, they still think it is perfectly appropriate for such an unrepentant criminal to hold the highest office in the land who has promised to ignore the parts of the Constitution he doesn't like on day one of his Presidency. 

 

 

 

We are rapidly devolving into fascism, and it is your party that is ushering it in.  Don't worry Tom I can see the writing on the wall and that is why I am planning for my retirement to be outside the USA.  I suggest you invest in some Jack Boots and practice your goose-stepping.  I am sure you would be a good fit for Trump's SS. 

Edited on Jun 5, 2023 3:04pm

Why are you speaking to stupid Tommie-poo as if he were rational and an adult?

I have what I'm surprised to find is considered an odd take on these things. Since Tennessee is a battleground state, I get exposed to a lot of this stuff. Anyway, my take is I will defend drag queens up and down and to the death, while I have zero problem making people be adults before they can decide to lop off their breasts or penis. I don't find these positions radical or contradictory, but most people do, which I think is nuts (or lack thereof).

 

I do not see how you can criminalize men dressed a certain way and doing certain dance routines and have women dressed identically, doing identical routines, as not criminals. That seems weirdly absurd. I consider it a free speech issue.

 

But I have no problem with legislating minors holding off on life-changing drug treatments and surgeries until they have some living under their belts. I'm with Michael Shermer of The Skeptic regarding most of this stuff.

 

I hate to keep plugging my blog (since it's not monetized -- LOL), but I did tackle this when I attended a drag show in Tennessee:

 

https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot.com/2023/04/dungeons-and-drag-queens.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by: Robert Dietz

I have what I'm surprised to find is considered an odd take on these things. Since Tennessee is a battleground state, I get exposed to a lot of this stuff. Anyway, my take is I will defend drag queens up and down and to the death, while I have zero problem making people be adults before they can decide to lop off their breasts or penis. I don't find these positions radical or contradictory, but most people do, which I think is nuts (or lack thereof).

 

I do not see how you can criminalize men dressed a certain way and doing certain dance routines and have women dressed identically, doing identical routines, as not criminals. That seems weirdly absurd. I consider it a free speech issue.

 

But I have no problem with legislating minors holding off on life-changing drug treatments and surgeries until they have some living under their belts. I'm with Michael Shermer of The Skeptic regarding most of this stuff.

 

I hate to keep plugging my blog (since it's not monetized -- LOL), but I did tackle this when I attended a drag show in Tennessee:

 

https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot.com/2023/04/dungeons-and-drag-queens.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


           My problem with drag queens is to just who and where they perform. Schools and children are off limits.

Originally posted by: David Miller

           My problem with drag queens is to just who and where they perform. Schools and children are off limits.


A child has to have been living under a rock to not know what a drag queen is, and has to have been living a tragically sheltered life to be offended by it.

Originally posted by: Robert Dietz

I have what I'm surprised to find is considered an odd take on these things. Since Tennessee is a battleground state, I get exposed to a lot of this stuff. Anyway, my take is I will defend drag queens up and down and to the death, while I have zero problem making people be adults before they can decide to lop off their breasts or penis. I don't find these positions radical or contradictory, but most people do, which I think is nuts (or lack thereof).

 

I do not see how you can criminalize men dressed a certain way and doing certain dance routines and have women dressed identically, doing identical routines, as not criminals. That seems weirdly absurd. I consider it a free speech issue.

 

But I have no problem with legislating minors holding off on life-changing drug treatments and surgeries until they have some living under their belts. I'm with Michael Shermer of The Skeptic regarding most of this stuff.

 

I hate to keep plugging my blog (since it's not monetized -- LOL), but I did tackle this when I attended a drag show in Tennessee:

 

https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot.com/2023/04/dungeons-and-drag-queens.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Drag shows have been around since ancient Greece and Rome (and probably before). They have been a part of art and performance for millennia (in several Shakespeare plays, for example).

 

I would be a LOT more sympathetic to the conservitard anti-LGBTQ movement if it were truly based on the welfare of children. But the reality is that the issue, like the idiotic CRT kerfuffle, is just red meat for the base. If they actually gave a shit about their kids, they wouldn't choke off their educations and teach them to love shitbags like Trump Abbott DeSantis et al.

 

My only take on gender-altering surgery is that the young people who have undergone it overwhelmingly seem to be happy that they did. So I'm inclined to say, it's their business, not mine. And it being "harmful" according to some Victorian philosophy doesn't enter into it as far as I'm concerned. And does it hurt or even affect me? Hell, no. So I favor the gummint not interfering.

 

The above is the classic conservative philosophy regarding the role of gummint, so I find it amusing and disgusting that this issue causes so much purple-faced fist-shaking among that crowd.

Drag shows aren’t for children Their appeal lies in sexual dissidence -- Only a sick person would advocate for children being exposed to this immorality. -- https://unherd.com/2022/08/drag-shows-arent-for-children/

Edited on Jun 5, 2023 7:37pm
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