This Rolling Stone piece hits the nail on the head. Deficits only matter when Democrats are the President

Look everyone !  I found a meme on Facebook that reinforces Max's post.      There's no denying the factuality of it now, David.    

 

 

 

May be an image of text that says 'Netanyahu: I need $19.8 billion Hegseth: I need $1.5 trillion Trump: Trump:Approved Approved -Trump: Approved Argentina: We need $40 billion Qatar: We need an Air Force Base in Idaho Trump: Approved TuTp: Approved Average Joe: I lost my job. My wife got cancer. Can we get Medicaid? Trump: No.'

Both parties are guilty..easily provable. When we fiscally, finally hit a wall, maybe all these dipshits will gain some insight.

Originally posted by: Nines

Both parties are guilty..easily provable. When we fiscally, finally hit a wall, maybe all these dipshits will gain some insight.


Agreed

Originally posted by: Nines

Both parties are guilty..easily provable. When we fiscally, finally hit a wall, maybe all these dipshits will gain some insight.


Both major parties are definitely to blame. 


Originally posted by: Nines

Both parties are guilty..easily provable. When we fiscally, finally hit a wall, maybe all these dipshits will gain some insight.


Not equally.  Sorry.  History doesnt lie.

 

 

Bill Clinton left office with a balanced budget.

 

W Bush started multi-trillion dollar occupancies in the Middle East and an unpaid for Medicare Part D..and massive tax cuts that killed the balanced budget he inherited.

 

Obama reduced Bush's deficit that he inherited by half and then paid for his primary legislative efforts in healthcare.

 

Trump spent his campaign crying about Obama's massively cut spending ...and then almost doubled it with a fresh new round of unreconciled tax cuts.

 

Biden was guilty of passing economic stimulous to get us out of COVID.    OK fine. 

 

Trump spent another campaign crying about spending only to spend more upon taking office and reinstating the unreconciled tax cuts from his first term.

 

 

Its a false equivalency to say "both parties are guilty".    

 

 

 

 

 

U.S. Treasury: FY 2025 Deficit Totaled $1.8 Trillion - AAF

Pj's chart shows he wring

 

The Republican Contract With America dragged Clinton to the balanced budget

 

obama massively increased spending then bragged when he reduced it to levels above what he inherited 

 

2020 was a Covid year & both party went crazy. 

2021 was Biden  who continued to spend & 2025 all attempts to reduce spending was blocked by the democrats. Remember Schumer & company singing songs about it!

 

This has been shown before but another democrat rule is to ignore facts. 

Again - Democrats and Liberals are graph literate.    Tom cant read and cant match up years with presidents.   Nor does he know the timeline of COVID...or he just lies about it.


I cant help with that.     SO I'll just post the data and point and laugh at Tom.

 

We spent more money last week in Iran than DOGE cut from essential government services.    And if you ask Tom who should pay for that new spending he'll give you the same answer he did when Bush did the same thing.     If you dont demand this war be paid for then you have no business engaging in a discussion about government spending and deficits.

 

 

 

 

Edited on May 8, 2026 12:38pm
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Again - Democrats and Liberals are graph literate.    Tom cant read and cant match up years with presidents.   Nor does he know the timeline of COVID...or he just lies about it.


I cant help with that.     SO I'll just post the data and point and laugh at Tom.

 

We spent more money last week in Iran than DOGE cut from essential government services.    And if you ask Tom who should pay for that new spending he'll give you the same answer he did when Bush did the same thing.     If you dont demand this war be paid for then you have no business engaging in a discussion about government spending and deficits.

 

 

 

 


 What "essential services" were cut last week and for what amount? Back up your post - or stop with the lies.

Reduce all social welfare spending to 2019 levels with an adjustment for inflation 


pj would prefer we let Iran develop nuclear missiles with intercontinental capabilities 

Originally posted by: tom

Reduce all social welfare spending to 2019 levels with an adjustment for inflation 


pj would prefer we let Iran develop nuclear missiles with intercontinental capabilities 


There's more people on Medicare right now than 2019 due to population demographics....and Trump already gutted Medicaid eligibility.     So whose Medicare benefits are you going to curtail?   

 

It doesnt pay for the Iran War   and it certainly doesnt pay for TRrump's requested additional 1 trillion for the military.

 

And you've already shown multiple times on this forum you are not capable of being honest with basic historical facts when it comes to Iran, nukes, and treaties.    Regardless - Im 100% for charging every adult $100/month tax in this country while that war is ongoing.      How long do you think that war would last if all the MAGA hawks like you had to fork that over?      If you are the big fiscal hawk you claim to be then you would be for that at least.

 

 

 

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