Truly Disappointing

Originally posted by: David Miller

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    Abortion rights were decided by the voters in those states - just as the Supreme Court ruled they should be. 

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Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

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Nope. Those rights, guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment, exist in every state regardless of whatever laws they may pass. It's no different than if the red states were passing laws prohibiting free speech--those laws would be unconstitutional.

 

So the measures inserting clauses into state constitutions are irrelevant. States can't cancel or validate the rights of US citizens. The Supreme Court decision was horribly wrong--and stupid, since all it really did was enrage voters.

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Originally posted by: David Miller

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  No where in the 14th Amendment does it say anything about abortions.  Abortion is not a "privilege" or "immunity"-- while it does state "nor shall any state deprive any person of life" ---  14th Amendment says - No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

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It's simply a triumph of good and common sense over evil and wackadoodle conspiracy theories. Not that it should have been expected, though. The RepublQ anti-abortion crusade and the lingering stench of Trump apparently alienated just enough voters.

 

It must be soooo tough for you conservitards. Your team was leading by three touchdowns and fumbled its way into a tie.

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Originally posted by: Mark

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So, do you think the R's will ditch Trump or do you think they will the continue being his cucks?

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Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

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The only locales we were leading by three touchdowns was in Florida and in other states where Republican incumbents were in the race. The outcome ( which isn't known fully yet) is tough for the R's, but I'm denouncing suicide as a palliative therapy.

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Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

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I'm not going to engage in that debate again. The 14th Amendment guarantees the right to privacy, which includes the right to control what happens to one's own body. States can't lawfully take away that right. And if you're trying to assign rights to fetuses, a fetus is not a person.

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Originally posted by: David Miller

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 Bullshit- the right to privacy has nothing to do with abortion

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