Trump: Don't worry, and try not to die, unless you're a Democrat

Candy said, And may I say, how silly Kevin and Mark and others look politicising the coronavirus in the way they are doing.  Shows ignorance and refusal to seek legitimate information instead of garbage (and grossly faulty) tweets that link what's going on with the disease to a political ideation.

The president is politicizing the crisis.  He issued a gag order to the CDC so they can’t speak or issue health warnings unless it is filtered through the guy that doesn’t believe in science Mike Pence. Trump alternates between claiming it is a hoax and saying it is Nancy Pelosi or some other Democrats fault. He has demonstrated his ability to understand medical issues and basic science isn’t on par with a Jr. High biology student. “Who knew the flu killed people.” Upon being told it would take a minimum 18 months to have a vaccine ready he said, “I mean, I like the sound of a couple months better, if I must be honest…” 

And the worst part is he is having the CDC not test people because he is afraid the real numbers will be politically bad for him. People are dying and the virus is spreading because of his craven political calculations and you want to complain about what Kevin and I say on a message board?  

Look at these mortality rates as of today. (Legitimate information that I sought out.)

Iran 3.3%

Mainland China 3.7%

South Korea .5%

Japan 2%

France 2%

Germany 0%

Spain %.6

Singapore %0 

Hong Kong 2%

The good old USA: 5.7%
These Numbers are from Johns Hopkins by the way. 

If Trump is doing such a good job that it is political if you criticize him, how come we can’t even compete with 3rd world healthcare? It seems to me you are the one avoiding seeking out real information because you are too invested in Donald Trump.  How many people have to die for you to wake up and show some basic humanity rather than shilling for Trump.  Hell, Tom, David Miller and Boiler have thrown in the towel at this point. 

Wow !  thats a page full !  

I'm not sure what fictional Universe Don Diego lived in prior to Medicare where there was some kind of private sector equivalent.   The ONLY reason DonDiego is not bankrupt with medical bills is because of the non-profit, socialist healthcare program known as Medicare which undertook the completely non-profitable venture of insuring people with the ultimate pre-existing condition known as "old age"

Prior to Medicare the only way seniors could get health insurance was to pay 3X the private sector premium that younger people did.    That would put you well over 30K in today's market (every year).

   Socialism saved you a ton of money and likely  added many non-bankrupt years to your life ...and all the other seniors too.    On behalf of the people who made your life better I say you're welcome.. 

Let me clarify. I'm grateful for what we do have. I'm outraged about what we easily could have, but don't, due to Republican greed and stupidity. And yeah, Candy, sorry, but the idea of the "inferior classes" is a vital part of conservative orthodoxy, and "hammered" unceasingly by conservative pundits and our Trumpers.

Candy, I gave you credit for being something more than a Trump stooge. Now, you're just echoing Trump's comments about how "the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus." I'm not the one who made up all of Trump's tweets. That, Candy dear, was Trump. And we all have sought and continue to seek legitimate information--not like slack-jawed Trumpers who stare at Fox News.

Also, criticism of Trump isn't political or politicized. We loathe him because of who he is and what he does, not because he's a Republican. We criticize him because he's a terrible leader and an idiot to boot. That transcends partisan considerations. People will die because of his incompetence. That's not a political matter.

I'm disappointed that apparently, you don't fathom the distinction.

DonDiego recommends that everyone do the best they can in providing medical care for themselves and their families.

I assume that he therefore recommends that anyone who cannot afford and/or is denied healthcare break into a hospital and hold a nurse or two at gunpoint until a doctor provides the needed medical care.

DonDiego complains about the cost and inefficiency of government-provided health care (which he has nonetheless utilized). I would ask him to quantify the cost and inefficiency of allowing millions of people to sicken, and often die, from treatable medical conditions because they can't afford and/or do not have access to care.

Don't be so optimistic about the temporary absence of our primary Trumpholes. Tom's being held for observation at a mental facility, Stalker's in the Clark County drunk tank, and Boiler is participating in the "No More Free Shit" march in Alabama. They'll all be back. For them, this board is an essential part of their horrid lives.

DonDiego encourages his fellow citizens to plan their lives so as to be able to afford medical insurance/medical care as they require it.

DonDiego opposes violence or the threat of violence.

KevinLewis's request that poor old DonDiego "quantify the cost and inefficiency of allowing millions of people to sicken, and often die, from treatable medical conditions because they cannot and/or do not have access to care" is too hard for poor old DonDiego.

DonDiego supposes somebody has considered this problem; perhaps KevinLewis can Google it. 

DonDiego echoes Boilerman's contention that people should "prepare for life" and be able to see the future so that they will know if they will have a serious accident or develop a life-threatening condition. That preparation must of necessity include setting aside several hundred thousand dollars to not only pay for the treatment necessary, but also to be able to survive financially for several months or even years.

Those who do not have the financial resources to do so are obviously not prepared for life, in Boilerman's august judgment, and should therefore die. I fear that DonDiego is in agreement.

I suppose that allowing those with inadequate resources to die is a good thing according to the tenets of social Darwinism. The presumption is that a person's worth is solely how much economic output that person can generate. Those not skilled enough to amass a reasonable fortune do not deserve to live.

I for one find allowing people who could be treated to die abhorrent, but I must acknowledge that there are tens of millions of conservatives who find treating such people to be equally abhorrent. As the Nazis said, such people are "useless mouths."

Kevin, please tell us all of the free shit that we should give to people who have not prepared for life.  An itemized list would be handy, starting with health care.

Kevin Lewis writes:

"DonDiego echoes Boilerman's contention that people should "prepare for life" and be able to see the future so that they will know if they will have a serious accident or develop a life-threatening condition. That preparation must of necessity include setting aside several hundred thousand dollars to not only pay for the treatment necessary, but also to be able to survive financially for several months or even years."

Umm, . . . Kevin Lewis's proposal that one "set aside several hundred thousand dollars" for unforseen medical expenses is one solution, in fact an excellent solution if one is sufficiently productive and thrifty.

DonDiego's solution was to purchase medical insurance.

Medical Insurance is a way for citizens to share personal medical risk among groups of like-thinking-citizens without setting aside hundreds of thousands of dollars.  The wise worker might investigate employer-provided health-care insurance.  It's been a pretty big thing since the 1950s.

One need not "see into the future"; all he has to do is play the odds - buy insurance if one is not feeling lucky.

DonDiego seldom feels lucky.

First, tell us what "not prepared for life" means. According to whom? According to whose standards? Yours?? Then tell us how people are supposed to be able to foresee the future.

And y'know, if someone was sick, or dying, or broke, or in some kind of dire straits, and asked me for help, I wouldn't stand over them, holding what they needed in my closed fist, and ask sternly, "Why didn't you prepare for life?" I'd just give them what they needed, without stopping to consider whether they "deserved" it or not.

But I guess that's the difference between me and you.

I loathe your nasty-old-white-man viewpoints, your lack of compassion, and your lack of humanity. So--and I say this with all sincerity--piss off.