The Truth About The Open The Economy Movement

Originally posted by: Mark

It isn't about opening the economy. It is about forcing their servants to go back to work and wait on them.  Conservatives here and elsewhere like to portray themselves as rugged individualists that can survive any calamity while tofu eating liberals cannot survive even a few days without modern conveniences.   We even had a long thread about this very subject here on the forum asking us to choose who would survive.

 

These protests have revealed that it is the self-entitled conservatives that can't even survive a few days of minimal inconvenience.  Given all the I need a haircut signs, they can't even groom themselves without assistance.  What this movement is really about is forcing all the low paid service workers to go back to work so they can have people wait on them and provide them the luxuries they are used to.

 

They want someone to cut their hair, mow their lawn, give them a massage, cook and serve them their dinner, give them a new tattoo, watch their spoiled brats because they are already sick of them, walk their dogs, and take care for their elderly parents so they don't have to. They are done wiping grandma's ass and they aren't going to take it anymore. 

 

In 90% of the country, anybody that wants a job right now can have one. We desperately need meatpackers, assembly line workers, nurses aides, fast food workers, grocery store workers, convenience store workers, EMTs, cleaning staff, e-commerce workers and so on. Everyplace in my area like these examples are desperately looking for workers just so they can keep the doors open.

 

Conservative pussies are content to continue to cash their unemployment checks or social security checks while we run out of food.  The people that make up the backbone of the economy are already working. 

 

 


Dam Mark that is good!!

 

Boilerman, Charles and I are pretty much aligned, it seems.  (To me, anyway.) 

 

As soon as Mark/Kevin (one and the same) begins with a point that I could consider, and possibly agree with, they launch into universal nasty name calling and labeling, at which time I can't continue.  It ruins any point they wish to make.   Their degree of generalizing belies any reasoned thinking on their part.

Originally posted by: Candy Wright

Boilerman, Charles and I are pretty much aligned, it seems.  (To me, anyway.) 

 

As soon as Mark/Kevin (one and the same) begins with a point that I could consider, and possibly agree with, they launch into universal nasty name calling and labeling, at which time I can't continue.  It ruins any point they wish to make.   Their degree of generalizing belies any reasoned thinking on their part.


You have no problem, apparently, with our resident Trumpers doing exactly that.

 

So it's not the tone you really object to, it's the content. Mark and I don't align with your ideology. That's fine. But treat it as what it actually is--ideological differences.

 

Our thinking IS reasoned, and for that matter, in a twisted, bizarre way, so is that of Charles, Tom, Boiler, and Stal---OK, can't go that far.

 

Mark and I have strong objections to the dominant role of massive corporations in American life. Right now, that's killing people--it's not some kind of abstraction.

 

I have friends who have died and are dying. Am I angry at those who did nothing to stop it? Goddamn right I am. My most insincere apologies for that.

I highly object to the tone, the name calling, the labeling.   


Candy Wright, What is the politically correct thing to call a horde of people a lot of which are decked out in Nazi paraphernalia and or waving Confederate flags armed with long-guns, that break into a State Captial chanting that they want to execute the governor? 

 

When the news media interviews these folks and ask them what they are upset about they hem and haw before saying something stupid like I can't get a haircut, I can't get my nails done, I can't launch my bass boat, I can't get anybody to watch my kids, I can't eat out, I can't hire anyone to cut my lawn, a mask is too uncomfortable to have wear and on and on. Each reason given is dumber than the last. Not to mention most of them don't wear masks or practice social distancing while screaming at the top of their lungs. Once they are done at the protest, they stop by the grocery store or gas station forcing all of those workers and regular people they encounter along the way to expose themselves to people that gather in large groups and don't self-distance. What would you call someone one so self-centered and so lacking in basic humanity?

 

We know your guy Trump calls them good people. 

Edited on May 4, 2020 4:07pm

Make no mistake.  Mark dreams about using the pandemic as a means to eliminate capitalism and invoke a state directed economy.  He really believes 30 Million unemployed American workers aren't 'essential'.  They are traitorous Republican slobs.  They shall not go back to their old jobs or small businesses.  They will be directed to the meatpacking plants or the gulags or they can starve.  The longer we keep the economy locked down, the sooner its foundation collapses which he believes can be rebuilt into a socialist utopia….Like China.

 

No, Charles, I am saying conservatives should put on their big girl panties. If you are not content because you are laid off, do something constructive for yourself and the country as a whole. Work one of these essential jobs so your family, friends and neighbors can make it through this hardship with their basic needs met like having food to eat. If you don't want to give up your unemployment, volunteer at a hospital or nursing home. They desperately need people right now to keep those facilities running. 

 

So yes folks that gather at the statehouses and governors' mansions armed and mixed in with groups of people carrying Confederate flags and wearing Nazi paraphernalia chanting to execute the governors or forcibly remove them are traitorous. 

 

And the premise of opening the economy is pure lunacy with no basis in reality. What do you think is going to happen when the cases spike upward?  Is that going to be good for the economy? Are you going to go to work every day when you don't have food to eat because the food processing plants are no longer running? 

 

What is the real unemployment rate right now 20% or more?  Do you think flipping a switch and saying it is open is going to magically restore everything? Is everyone going to go back to their good-paying jobs like they never left? No, of course not! There has to be a demand for the product or service their employer is providing. And demand won't increase until the virus is licked.  Infecting more people to open things is just going to set us back by months or even years. 

 

Edited on May 4, 2020 4:00pm
Originally posted by: Candy Wright

I highly object to the tone, the name calling, the labeling.   


I highly object to the tone Trump sets every day cheering on armed people that don't social distance and chant to execute or otherwise forcibly remove elected officals looking out for their health of their citizens. 

Originally posted by: Candy Wright

I highly object to the tone, the name calling, the labeling.   


You never object when our Trumpers do that. Boilerman misspells "liberal" and treats it like a term for everything wrong in the world. Charles, Tom, and Stalker take aggressive, hyperpartisan stances every day--and label anyone who disagrees with them a liar. 

 

I have a hard time validating selective righteous indignation.

Yup. Whataboutisim, the new consertivatisim.

 Everyone has  a hard time with your filth spewing mouth Kevin.

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