Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33
Kevin, I know lots of people that just threw their stimulus into savings. Didn't spend a dime. I also know many businesses that didn't need the $ from PPP and dumped it right into their pockets. And many, were dreaded rich folk. (That even made me sick.). And I know many in our state department who tell me the U/C system was completely outdated and ripe for fraud and they lost millions. You can't possibly tell me none of that contributes to inflation. But I appreciate your answer above.
Also, no point in debating the shutdown as we won't agree but it caused a massive labor shortage on the other side. Bars, restaurants, Target, etc, etc could not find workers so they raised wages. In turn then, those same places had to raise prices. If a person is not one of those w increased wages or say in retirement, you just became poorer. Right? All I'm saying is the shutdown, overzealous stimulus and extended juiced-up U/C contributed to this.
Allow me to school you a bit more, Jerry. I'm quite well educated and well read in economics and monetary policy, so I do actually know what I'm talking about, and it's not a topic I view through some kind of partisan lens.
If $1 from a stimulus payment (or from anywhere else) goes into a savings account, the bank receiving it can now make $5 in additional loans (due to the 20% reserve requirement). Those loans can finance mortgages, allow businesses to fund capital, etc. etc. etc. So that money isn't stagnant. This is one of the many reasons why the government giving people money is often a very good idea--even, and especially if, the concept twists conservitard panties ("AH DONE WORKED FER EVERRY PENNY AND AH HATE SEEING DEM WELFARE QUEENS GITTIN' BIG CHECKS FROM DAT SOCIALIST GUMMINT!!!!!!!!!!!").
There was no labor shortage during the shutdown--because there was, um, a shutdown, and most businesses were either closed or sharply curtailed their operations. And as far as wage hikes are concerned--we're just catching up. Wages have been stagnant for decades and have lagged well behind increases in the cost of living. The pandemic made a lot of people rethink whether it was worth it to work shitty, low-paying, no-benefit jobs. The effect is to move just a leeeeetle bit, at least, of America's wealth from the pockets of the rich to those of the average Joe. After all, corporate America got a yuge lollipop from the Orange Pusbag in 2018. It's time they gave some of that back.