David's in full unhinged rant mode. If you want to know what kind of person he is, all you need to know is that he thinks that Trump has never lied, has never committed a crime, and is just an all-around swell guy.
David's in full unhinged rant mode. If you want to know what kind of person he is, all you need to know is that he thinks that Trump has never lied, has never committed a crime, and is just an all-around swell guy.
Originally posted by: David Miller
Personality traits ?? - This man has experienced unsufferable media attacks for 6+ years. They have lied about him daily. The fucking DemocRats have tried to impeach him twice, the Russia bullshit, and unfounded law suits - all of which were proven to be lies. All the while, pre covid, he did a remarkable job with the economy, rebuilt the military, made America energy independant, created (not replaced) 7 million new jobs, lowest unemployment rate in a half century, he secured the border, the list goes on and on - - https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/ During all this time the media and the DemocRats constantly made up lies and NEVER truthfully reported what his administration accomplished. When covid hit, the media amped up their lying rhetoric, blaming him for the resulting carnage that occured in America. No one in the world was prepared for what happened or how to stem the effects of the virus. Trump got vaccines developed in record time saving million of lives. Meanwhile Cuomo, Whitmer and other DemocRatic leaders murdered thousands of senior citizens by introducing the virus into senior centers - and they did not get even a slap on the wrist. During the pre election debates of 2019 he predicted what would happen to America if the DemocRats took control- and he has been proven right. The media whipped up the nation into a frenzy, painting untrue pictures of him and convinced those who voted DemocRat to vote for the brain dead Biden. We are all living the nightmare that the DemocRats have foisted upon America - the atrocious Afghan withdrawl, record inflation, all time energy costs, wide open border, adding 7.9 Trillion dollars to the national debt. And all the while, even to this day, he is still being attacked and not given credit for what he accomplished. It is no wonder that he is bitter and lashes out at the DemocRats as they continue ruining America. I don't condone many of his current verbal personality traits , but I know that when he was in office America was greater than it is now. That man loves America and all he has gotten for all that was accomplished was ridicule. I will accept mean tweets and the justified calling out of the evil DemocRats all day long because I know that America would be much better off if he was the current President. I am always amazed that millions of Americans are too ignorant to see just where America is headed and the fact that they prefer to vote for the very people who are destroying our once great nation. The younger generation has become more concerned with the sick indoctornation of eroding morals in our schools, CRT horseshit, trans gender idiocy, wokeism, gender fluidity - the list of stupidity never ends. How do you like $6 a gallon gasoline, the running out of diesel, historic inflation, empty grocery shelves, record rental prices, thousands of small business closings, etc? The list goes on and on. So go ahead and dislike him, but I will tell you that I would vote for him in a second - he may not be perfect, but he had America on track to be great again.
David.. As stated before in here, I voted for the guy twice, and there's no argument from me regarding how deranged the social / moral/ monetary / security / legislative conditions are in the US presently. Conservatives can't accept those conditions..I don't. I'd further agree with your comments regarding the incessant attacks directed at Trump by the great grand majority of media sources and the bureucracratic left in DC...it has been and continues to be summarily unjust and unfair regardless of who states otherwise. I don't care who states otherwise ( including ..what.. 75% of participants here?).
Again, there were several policies he enacted that I supported wholeheartedly (thus the basis for my earlier voting decisions). Many of those enacted policies and approaches were stone-cold and ideologically conservative at their core. That fact is one of the bases, along with his 'outsider' status, as to why the left set their sites on him. They really do despise him for those and other reasons. That swamp was/is deeper than he might have envisioned when elected. At the root of all these disparities, it again somewhat boils down to the same old main arguments between left and right ( if both sides are truly honest about it, which they generally won't be)..most of those basic differences have never changed and likely won't.
I told you earlier why I can't support him anymore, that being his words / behavioral actions surrounding Jan. 6. The court cases disproved election fraud, and his inner circle of family and staff had advised him so. I fully understand his frustration / distrust with the 2020 outcome due to his inherent distrust of the left and what he had experienced at their doing previously. Additionally, I could never get behind his penchant for self-aggrandizing and self back - patting. For me personally, he's often just too much about Trump...it gave me pause about his character. Those are my reasons, specifically.
If you choose to support him, I understand why. I can't. I guess we should both be thankful about the recent midterm House victory as a temporary stopgap of the mired conditions. Day at a time.
Charles, Democrats despise him for what he is, not his policies; if you're honest, you'll acknowledge that his tax breaks for the rich shit was the only substantive policy he accomplished in four years. Everything else was self-aggrandizement and pandering to the base--concentrating on getting his ass reelected.
As I've said before, I wouldn't support a candidate with a character that poor even if he and I agreed 100% on policy. But I guess I'm made of sterner stuff than you :)
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
Charles, Democrats despise him for what he is, not his policies; if you're honest, you'll acknowledge that his tax breaks for the rich shit was the only substantive policy he accomplished in four years. Everything else was self-aggrandizement and pandering to the base--concentrating on getting his ass reelected.
As I've said before, I wouldn't support a candidate with a character that poor even if he and I agreed 100% on policy. But I guess I'm made of sterner stuff than you :)
You again? *looks around for a spare fork*
Originally posted by: David Miller
Personality traits ?? - This man has experienced unsufferable media attacks for 6+ years. They have lied about him daily. The fucking DemocRats have tried to impeach him twice, the Russia bullshit, and unfounded law suits - all of which were proven to be lies. All the while, pre covid, he did a remarkable job with the economy, rebuilt the military, made America energy independant, created (not replaced) 7 million new jobs, lowest unemployment rate in a half century, he secured the border, the list goes on and on - - https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/ During all this time the media and the DemocRats constantly made up lies and NEVER truthfully reported what his administration accomplished. When covid hit, the media amped up their lying rhetoric, blaming him for the resulting carnage that occured in America. No one in the world was prepared for what happened or how to stem the effects of the virus. Trump got vaccines developed in record time saving million of lives. Meanwhile Cuomo, Whitmer and other DemocRatic leaders murdered thousands of senior citizens by introducing the virus into senior centers - and they did not get even a slap on the wrist. During the pre election debates of 2019 he predicted what would happen to America if the DemocRats took control- and he has been proven right. The media whipped up the nation into a frenzy, painting untrue pictures of him and convinced those who voted DemocRat to vote for the brain dead Biden. We are all living the nightmare that the DemocRats have foisted upon America - the atrocious Afghan withdrawl, record inflation, all time energy costs, wide open border, adding 7.9 Trillion dollars to the national debt. And all the while, even to this day, he is still being attacked and not given credit for what he accomplished. It is no wonder that he is bitter and lashes out at the DemocRats as they continue ruining America. I don't condone many of his current verbal personality traits , but I know that when he was in office America was greater than it is now. That man loves America and all he has gotten for all that was accomplished was ridicule. I will accept mean tweets and the justified calling out of the evil DemocRats all day long because I know that America would be much better off if he was the current President. I am always amazed that millions of Americans are too ignorant to see just where America is headed and the fact that they prefer to vote for the very people who are destroying our once great nation. The younger generation has become more concerned with the sick indoctornation of eroding morals in our schools, CRT horseshit, trans gender idiocy, wokeism, gender fluidity - the list of stupidity never ends. How do you like $6 a gallon gasoline, the running out of diesel, historic inflation, empty grocery shelves, record rental prices, thousands of small business closings, etc? The list goes on and on. So go ahead and dislike him, but I will tell you that I would vote for him in a second - he may not be perfect, but he had America on track to be great again.
In case you didnt want to read this 80 line run-on sentence - here are the Cliff Notes....
Originally posted by: Charles Higgins
You again? *looks around for a spare fork*
Charles, you're partially to blame, though certainly only on a very small, fractional basis, for all the pain, divisiveness, and fighting that your orange hero caused and is still causing. And right now, we're feeling the fiscal consequences of his tax giveaways for the wealthy.
No conservative policy--NONE--benefits the people. Many conservative policies benefit big business--often, at the people's expense. So I wonder which holy writ of conservatism you think really does benefit the citizenry--slashing social welfare programs? Gutting environmental protections? Making it harder to vote? I'd honestly like to know which of those stances you think makes people's lives better, and why. I'm sure your arguments will be specious--conservatism hurts, not helps people--but I'm rather curious as to why you think the way you do. It's got to be more than just that's the way your daddy talked and thought.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
Charles, you're partially to blame, though certainly only on a very small, fractional basis, for all the pain, divisiveness, and fighting that your orange hero caused and is still causing. And right now, we're feeling the fiscal consequences of his tax giveaways for the wealthy.
No conservative policy--NONE--benefits the people. Many conservative policies benefit big business--often, at the people's expense. So I wonder which holy writ of conservatism you think really does benefit the citizenry--slashing social welfare programs? Gutting environmental protections? Making it harder to vote? I'd honestly like to know which of those stances you think makes people's lives better, and why. I'm sure your arguments will be specious--conservatism hurts, not helps people--but I'm rather curious as to why you think the way you do. It's got to be more than just that's the way your daddy talked and thought.
"No conservative policy -NONE - benefits the people."
Roughly half of the US voting population would disagree with you, based on midterm outcomes. In fact if one looks at the total vote tallys for R's vs D's ( currently a disparity of about 5 million in favor of R's), it's more than half. That fact either dispells your claim on its face or half the country is deluded beyond reproach. There's a whole raft of additional reasons I could list, but I won't waste my time. You'd just counter those with far-fetched liberal claims and reasoning. So we'll agree to disagree and move on.
Originally posted by: Charles Higgins
"No conservative policy -NONE - benefits the people."
Roughly half of the US voting population would disagree with you, based on midterm outcomes. In fact if one looks at the total vote tallys for R's vs D's ( currently a disparity of about 5 million in favor of R's), it's more than half. That fact either dispells your claim on its face or half the country is deluded beyond reproach. There's a whole raft of additional reasons I could list, but I won't waste my time. You'd just counter those with far-fetched liberal claims and reasoning. So we'll agree to disagree and move on.
Nice di-si-do around the question. Maybe I should put it differently: what conservative policies DON'T favor big business?
And yeah, my counters would be far-fetched liberal claims such as that universal health care, expanded voting access, and strong environmental protections--all of which are anathema to conservatives--all benefit the people. How liberal radical sooooocialist left-wing commie of me.
It would appear to be utterly beyond your ken that policies that benefit the people SHOULD be enacted by a responsible representative government.
I completely agree with you that half the country is, in fact, deluded beyond reproach. That was already established when the 75 million voted for that horrible thing, Trump--twice. I still find that appalling and barely believable. And BTW, that bunch still happily laps up all the social benefits provided by those gol-dang liberal policies (and paid for by blue states).
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
Nice di-si-do around the question. Maybe I should put it differently: what conservative policies DON'T favor big business?
And yeah, my counters would be far-fetched liberal claims such as that universal health care, expanded voting access, and strong environmental protections--all of which are anathema to conservatives--all benefit the people. How liberal radical sooooocialist left-wing commie of me.
It would appear to be utterly beyond your ken that policies that benefit the people SHOULD be enacted by a responsible representative government.
I completely agree with you that half the country is, in fact, deluded beyond reproach. That was already established when the 75 million voted for that horrible thing, Trump--twice. I still find that appalling and barely believable. And BTW, that bunch still happily laps up all the social benefits provided by those gol-dang liberal policies (and paid for by blue states).
Make your choices and decisions..I'll do the same. I harbor complete faith in the continual ongoing absurdity we all engage in from time to time.
Originally posted by: Charles Higgins
Make your choices and decisions..I'll do the same. I harbor complete faith in the continual ongoing absurdity we all engage in from time to time.
I would support your position wholeheartedly if not for the sad fact that the horrible decisions you've made hurt me, and my loved ones, and my friends. And yourself of course, but there's no injustice in that.
I won't try to fathom the reasons why you're a conservative. I'm a student of history and know the terrible harm and suffering conservative policies have caused for over 100 years, and no, that isn't hyperbole. So no rational person could vote conservative based on perceived benefit to the people. Usually, it's some overriding justification, like this is the party of God or pro-life or pro-AMURRICA or mah Daddy done voted Repubblekin and so will ah.
So while I would never support, for example, the Republican party core principle of "Fuck all nonwhite people," even though I'm white and wouldn't be directly affected by it, I understand that many other folks, you and your gang included, think differently. I don't support policies that hurt people. You do. That's the difference between me and you.
