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Originally posted by: malibber2Yes, but the only talk of modification I am aware of by Democrats is talk of reducing the benefits even more to make the polices even more "affordable". You know because $12,750 a year in out of pocket plus out of network medical expenses is so darn generous.
Yes, I will continue to point out how it falls short because I live it everyday. It isn't theoretical for me. No, I can honestly say it is just as shitty as before. It is just shitty in different ways than before. At the end of the day your still left with a steaming pile of shit and it still stinks because it is shit.
Even though I voted for Obama I got the health care plan that is more similar to the one purposed by McCain than the one purposed by Obama during that election. With McCain at least it was honest "were not giving you health care because we are mean old greedy bastards" with Obama it was
That’s what health insurance reform is all about – the peace of mind that if misfortune strikes, you don’t have to lose everything. lol what a lie.
Your last point is what is so disappointing. Now most Democrats are walking around in a stupefied haze thinking everything is better. If you bring up factual problems with the law they deny them or say you must be lying. Even your first instinct was to brush off my points as no big deal just choose a different company even though there aren't any different companies that offer polices.
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Obamacare can be altered to require less out of pocket expenses but that would make the law cost more. (More taxes) I'd be for it - certainly in the context of lowering costs for low-income people if nothing else.
You (malibber) keep pointing out how the new law still falls short. You're right. It does. Its far from perfect. Your experience shows that to be true. What you seem to have a hard time admitting is that your new experience with healthcare (while still shitty) is far improved from what came before. Your high out-of-pocket insurance is better than no insurance isn't it? The fact that you have been able to get care outside of an emergency room is an improvement over emergency-only care isn't it? Cause thats where you'd be right now if John McCain won in 2008.
I know you advocate a single payer system where healthcare is a public service and not a privilege for those who can afford it. I'm with you. But open your eyes to the demographics of this country. Not even all Democrats are on that page as evidenced by recent history. There's still a ton of work to be done on healthcare. Ending discrimination against the sick was a massive step forward. So was expanding Medicaid to millions of uninsured people. I'm sorry you cant bring yourself to recognize that.
