Food Network has fired Paula Deen

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Originally posted by: treegirl
300-400 years? I'm pretty sure none of us were alive then.
I did nothing to enslave anyone but I can be called a cracker by a black person and it's ok.
At some point black ppl need to stop hating the white race living today for what their ancestors did.

I have many black friends who have told me that they know many other blacks who simply hate white ppl.
But it's ok, right?
No, bigotry and prejudice are always wrong. But white bigotry tends to come from ignorance and fear, while black bigotry tends to come from anger. So is the anger justified?

As I mentioned before, blacks had to spend 60% longer in lines than whites to vote...eight months ago! And while marijuana usage among blacks and whites is very similar, blacks are four times as likely to be arrested for it. NYPD stats say that New York City whites are more likely to be carrying illegal weapons or drugs, but people of color are about four time as likely to be targeted for a "stop and frisk." Through their high school years, students at predominately black schools receive an average of $8,000 less in total government funding than at predominately white ones. And people with black sounding names are less likely to be called in for job interviews, and the darker your skin, the longer your prison sentence. That's is reality for black people TODAY.

And Jim Crow laws aren't exactly ancient history. Most of us were alive when Sammy Davis Jr. couldn't stay in a Strip hotel while he was performing there, and when interracial marriage was illegal in 16 states. Most blacks have parents or grandparents who can tell them about being on the receiving end of blatant, unapologetic discrimination when it came to jobs, schooling, and housing. And their standard of living - to this day - is likely lower because of it.

And treegirl, during your lifetime we had a president who fabricated a story about a "welfare queen" with a six figure income, and who at one time fought to preserve laws that allowed racial discrimination in housing. And here on this board, we have people with the casual bigotry to object to black organizations, who would never object to Italian-American or Irish-American pride.

So yeah, I'm more likely to be somewhat understanding about black anger and bigotry. Just as I am more understanding about your cluelessness about it because of your youth. If you were older, and should have known better, I would not be so understanding.
There's plenty of hypocrisy when it comes to racism, sexism, and just about any other "ism". People with a history of being oppressed or treated as second class citizens are given a free pass. To demonstrate - take a step back from "black and white" and replace it with "men and women"

Today a female stand up comedian can go on stage and go through a whole littany of points regarding the stupidity of men - much to the great applause of the audience. If a male comedian today goes on stage and says women cant drive, or read a map, or manage money, or <insert dippy woman joke here> then its a five alarm fire and in very poor taste.

In the past it didn't metter if black people were racist towards whites...or if women were sexist towards men. Their prejudice didn't impact the quality of their targets' lives. Thats not true in the reverse scenario. And there's probably still alot of bad blood resulting from it - hence the double standard. Our culture is largely ok with it- but that doesn't mean you have to be.
I'm not clueless. How young do you think I am? I am also not uneducated and to know the history of our nation.
Now stop repeating yourself.
I'm just not going to coddle a whole race.
There is discrimination against white women,older white ppl, white hanicapoed ppl, white jewish ppl, white poor ppl everyday.

Perhaps a country like ours with so many different races, etc was not such a great idea.
The ones who made it better are the white ppl.
Call me a racist for that if you want but you are wrong.
Meanwhile, QVC has finally pulled the trigger. It's difficult for me not to feel sorry for this woman, even though I've always found her TV persona repellent. I also felt her recent Today Show appearance was a bit disingenuous, and arrogantly contrary to her earlier video apology.

But, really. How important is this? The world doesn't owe Paula Deen an empire, and that's the only thing she's thrown away.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
There's plenty of hypocrisy when it comes to racism, sexism, and just about any other "ism". People with a history of being oppressed or treated as second class citizens are given a free pass. To demonstrate - take a step back from "black and white" and replace it with "men and women"

Today a female stand up comedian can go on stage and go through a whole littany of points regarding the stupidity of men - much to the great applause of the audience. If a male comedian today goes on stage and says women cant drive, or read a map, or manage money, or <insert dippy woman joke here> then its a five alarm fire and in very poor taste.

In the past it didn't metter if black people were racist towards whites...or if women were sexist towards men. Their prejudice didn't impact the quality of their targets' lives. Thats not true in the reverse scenario. And there's probably still alot of bad blood resulting from it - hence the double standard. Our culture is largely ok with it- but that doesn't mean you have to be.


You are so wrong on the comic statement. There are 1000's of insult comedians out there. Who cares what they say? Most ppl have to pay to hear their jokes, not the same as someone walking down the street and being verbally attacked by a person of a different color.
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Originally posted by: treegirl
...Perhaps a country like ours with so many different races, etc was not such a great idea.
The ones who made it better are the white ppl.
Call me a racist for that if you want...
No reason for me to call you anything. You've just done a GREAT job self-identifying.

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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: treegirl
...Perhaps a country like ours with so many different races, etc was not such a great idea.
The ones who made it better are the white ppl.
Call me a racist for that if you want...
No reason for me to call you anything. You've just done a GREAT job self-identifying.


It's just not that satisfying when you can't come up with the accusation is it?


Sorry, treegirl, but "Perhaps a country like ours with so many different races, etc was not such a great idea. The ones who made it better are the white ppl." is arguably the most racist comment I've seen on this thread... and there is a lot of competition.

If I had to include skin color in my short list of personal attributes, I would get a shorter list. But that's just me.
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Originally posted by: franksynopsis
Sorry, treegirl, but "Perhaps a country like ours with so many different races, etc was not such a great idea. The ones who made it better are the white ppl." is arguably the most racist comment I've seen on this thread... and there is a lot of competition.

If I had to include skin color in my short list of personal attributes, I would get a shorter list. But that's just me.


I sure don't see many mixed race neighborhoods. There are race gangs everywhere.
The Zimmerman trial is going on right now showing racism.
It's not going to get better. People are angry. Times are tough.
It's sad but that's what is real.

Affirmative Action? Why is it needed?
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