The Government Has Shut Down [01OCT2013]

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Originally posted by: forkushV
I mean what if Democrats shut down the government unless we cancel the law that prohibits Medicare from negotiating lower drug prices?

It's a serious question. Would it be okay if the Democrats did it? (My answer is no.)
Allow poor old DonDiego to at least partially allay forkushv's fear.

The citizenry need not worry about a shutdown over unnegotiated drug prices.

"Drug industry lobbyists reacted with alarm this week to a House health care overhaul measure that would allow the government to negotiate drug prices and demand additional rebates from drug manufacturers.
In response, the industry successfully demanded that the White House explicitly acknowledge for the first time that it had committed to protect drug makers from bearing further costs in the overhaul. The Obama administration had never spelled out the details of the agreement.
Billy Tauzin, the former Republican House member from Louisiana who now leads the pharmaceutical trade group, said Wednesday. 'Who is ever going to go into a deal with the White House again if they don’t keep their word? You are just going to duke it out instead.'
A deputy White House chief of staff, Jim Messina, confirmed Mr. Tauzin’s account of the deal in an e-mail message on Wednesday night."
Ref: The New York Times

When campaigning for the Presidency, Senator Obama did promise to: "Allow Medicare to negotiate for cheaper drug prices."
In 2012 the folks at Politifact.com concluded this is "a promise broken."
Conclusion: "As a candidate, Barack Obama promised to repeal a prohibition on Medicare negotiating directly with drug companies over prices for Medicare recipients. But it's widely viewed as unlikely to before the end of the current Obama administration."

Oh, . . . and by the way, . . . readers may be pleased to hear that DonDiego perceived no direct, personal negative effects of the now-concluded Government shutdown.

teechur and he traveled to/from the Greater New York City Metropolitan Area to spend time with their daughter and to attend the Eagles thumping of the NYGiants with no untoward incidents or delays along the roadways.

teechur and her daughter managed to depart the USA via jet aircraft for a visit to Italy without incident. DonDiego has been living the bachelor life for a few days; he finds the household tasks usually performed by teechur onerous. He awaits her punctual return.

DonDiego underwent some necessary oral surgery without mishap.

The Sun persisted in rising each day.

And all toilets, urinals, and plumbing in general which DonDiego encountered on his travels and at home functioned flawlessly.

Life goes on.
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: forkushV
I mean what if Democrats shut down the government unless we cancel the law that prohibits Medicare from negotiating lower drug prices?

It's a serious question. Would it be okay if the Democrats did it? (My answer is no.)
Allow poor old DonDiego to at least partially allay forkushv's fear...
Answer the question, about liberals possibly shutting down the government over that, excessive military spending, or any number of other issues.

My answer to the question is no. Your turn DonDiego.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
And a partial bill has been tallied for the cost of the Republican Temper Tantrum...oh, I mean government shutdown. Its still an open question as to what the lingering effect will be on holiday shopping...or what consumer behavior results from the anticipation of the next deadline in January.

S&P says 24 billion lost in economy...Moody's says 23 Billion

Bloomberg - Consumer Confidence plunges right before Holiday Shopping Season

I sure hope the electricity stays on. Christmas is much prettier with all those decorative lights


So Reid and Obama refuse to negotiate and there was a partial government shutdown. The Obama administration was the only entity that could pick and choose which parts of the government were actually shut down. They chose things that could be easily covered by the media who would in turn blame Republicans for every one of the decisions MADE BY OBAMA. Steve Urkel is running this country with Bart Simpson's "I didn't do it" response to everything he does. Everything he does is someone else's fault.

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Originally posted by: BobOrme

the media who would in turn blame Republicans for every one of the decisions MADE BY OBAMA. Steve Urkel is running this country with Bart Simpson's "I didn't do it" response to everything he does. Everything he does is someone else's fault.


The Republicans said they wanted the shutdown. The Republicans said they were happy they got their shutdown.

Are you calling the Republicans liars? They asked for and received 100% of the responsibility for their accomplishment.

You defend the people that take full credit/blame for causing the shutdown, by calling them liars. Bob, you are the worst Republican apologist ever.



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Originally posted by: BobOrme
So Reid and Obama refuse to negotiate...
No.

Obama refused to negotiate while there was a government shutdown or while the threat of a default was being used as ransom. Nor should any president, ever.

Otherwise, negotiate! For example, to get ObamaCare passed Obama was willing to negotiate with Big Pharma, and agreed to keep the Republican law protecting their Medicare profits. It''s true; you can look it up. Or better yet, just ask DonDiego.
I'm curious as to the content of any negotiations that might go on in the future. Weren't there some kind of promises to negotiate after the fact in the past? Some how methinks the Govt. is looking at another shutdown come Jan.

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Originally posted by: Number51
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Originally posted by: BobOrme

the media who would in turn blame Republicans for every one of the decisions MADE BY OBAMA. Steve Urkel is running this country with Bart Simpson's "I didn't do it" response to everything he does. Everything he does is someone else's fault.


The Republicans said they wanted the shutdown. The Republicans said they were happy they got their shutdown.

Are you calling the Republicans liars? They asked for and received 100% of the responsibility for their accomplishment.

You defend the people that take full credit/blame for causing the shutdown, by calling them liars. Bob, you are the worst Republican apologist ever.


Every dime spent by the federal government is supposed to originate in the House of Representatives. Adhering to the authority granted to this particular branch of our government by the Constitution is people elected to do their jobs actually doing the jobs they were elected to do. I'm calling Democrats and Obama liars for demonizing the House of Representatives for doing their job. You might find a sound bite or two taken out of context that could show someone being "happy" about the shutdown. It's more like they are proud that they stood up to the power hungry bullies who don't give a damn about the Constitution. The Whitehouse made sure every action taken during the shutdown (all of them came from Obama) would cause public outrage. Make it hurt as much as possible. Obama and Reid didn't care if the shutdown hurt the general public. They WANTED IT to hurt the general public because their media puppets would never blame them for it. Reid and other Democrats willingly appeased the petulant man-child occupying the Whitehouse. Obama repeatedly said he'd veto this bill or that bill if it was passed by the Senate. Harry "it's dead on arrival" Reid made sure Obama didn't have to actually veto anything. Now, Obama's lies about negotiating about anything after he got HIS way will be ignored by the media puppets. The guy had a Messiah complex before he was ever elected to the office. He is not the leader of a once proud nation. He is a cult leader who wantonly pits people against each other to make himself appear to be superior. I find it amazing at how many people don't see how incompetent the man is, but when you have a money driven machine that is the liberal media coupled with skyrocketing classes of people dependent on the government for their survival, ignorant blind support will likely follow, much to the detriment of this nation.
forky continues to follow the liberal/democratic party line that anything that goes against obama is hostage taking; others would call it democracy.

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Originally posted by: BobOrme
Every dime spent by the federal government is supposed to originate in the House of Representatives. Adhering to the authority granted to this particular branch of our government by the Constitution is people elected to do their jobs actually doing the jobs they were elected to do. I'm calling Democrats and Obama liars for demonizing the House of Representatives for doing their job. You might find a sound bite or two taken out of context that could show someone being "happy" about the shutdown. It's more like they are proud that they stood up to the power hungry bullies who don't give a damn about the Constitution. The Whitehouse made sure every action taken during the shutdown (all of them came from Obama) would cause public outrage. Make it hurt as much as possible. Obama and Reid didn't care if the shutdown hurt the general public. They WANTED IT to hurt the general public because their media puppets would never blame them for it. Reid and other Democrats willingly appeased the petulant man-child occupying the Whitehouse. Obama repeatedly said he'd veto this bill or that bill if it was passed by the Senate. Harry "it's dead on arrival" Reid made sure Obama didn't have to actually veto anything. Now, Obama's lies about negotiating about anything after he got HIS way will be ignored by the media puppets. The guy had a Messiah complex before he was ever elected to the office. He is not the leader of a once proud nation. He is a cult leader who wantonly pits people against each other to make himself appear to be superior. I find it amazing at how many people don't see how incompetent the man is, but when you have a money driven machine that is the liberal media coupled with skyrocketing classes of people dependent on the government for their survival, ignorant blind support will likely follow, much to the detriment of this nation.
Dude, did Obama make paragraphs illegal too?

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