Huge Explosion At Texas Fertilizer Plant

I understand the sentiment of ignoring someone so annoying but I find him entertaining.
Chili is obviously a fairly intelligent person. And after all, this is America where everyone is free to have their own opinion.
Besides, on most of the points the Coot is mostly right. Proper zoning and community planning could have prevented most of the private home and nursing home damage. However, As the area has grown in the last 15 to 20 years most of the people who have moved to the area did so to get away from government oversight and planning. Of course, the people who have moved in don't build their houses within sight of an agricultural/industrial facility such as this. That leaves the land cheap enough for the govt. and greedy nursing home corporations to build schools and such on.
And why should they worry about a fertilizer dump? Actually these kind of fatal accidents are quite rare, this is only the 6th such fatal incident in this country alone. (Texas city was a ship that exploded, albeit a ship full of fertilizer.) Quite uncommon considering that every agricultural community in the modern world has a fertilizer facility, or two, in it's midst. Hell, more lives are voluntarily terminated everyday than ever have been or ever will be lost to fertilizer caused accidents.
Life has no guarantees, bad things happen to good people. But, people are willing to take the risk of living next to a fertilizer yard. Thats their choice. They don't need the government telling them they can't.
But my opinion is different from Chili's so I'm sure he will point out all that is wrong with it and will continue to rant that only he is right.
Bah, don't ruin their fun by being respectfully disagreeable.

Imagine the intense, personal pleasure jatki99 found in writing "circle-jerking" in a public forum.
And so it goes, ad nauseam...
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And so it goes, ad nauseam...
In your case, ad hominem.


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..I believe it was forkush who recently said, “Truth never needs such a tortured explanation.”...
Yes, that quotation is a forkush original. It's available in needlepoint by the way.

Why is it that they will not release an official death count ? I know.....it doesn't matter whether 1 or 100 died, it is a tragedy any way you look at it.....but why not give the public some hard numbers ?

Thru different sources.....I have heard 2 dead, 5 dead, 15 dead, 60 dead, and 70 dead.

What is the reason behind the mystery ?

And or....who are the "authorities" trying to protect ?
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Why is it that they will not release an official death count ? I know.....it doesn't matter whether 1 or 100 died, it is a tragedy any way you look at it.....but why not give the public some hard numbers ?

Thru different sources.....I have heard 2 dead, 5 dead, 15 dead, 60 dead, and 70 dead.

What is the reason behind the mystery ?

And or....who are the "authorities" trying to protect ?


I would blame it on the nature of the damage.
First, the first responders are of the volunteer fire department. They come from their jobs and homes in response to the alarm. There is no way to tell for sure who was there when the explosion happened. Single guys with no local family, couples with no kids, someone who "might" be on vacation but "could have" been back and responded. There are no bodies in this type of explosion and fire so you can't be sure for quite a while.
My family tells me that the damage to some of the homes in the immidiate is devestating. It will be very hard to determine exactly who was in these houses or not at the time.
You also have the state an federal agencies comming in claiming jurisdiction. The locals are not going to cooporate well with these outsiders.
You can also blame it on the nature of modern "journalism". No death count might be considered more sensational than an accurate count.
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Originally posted by: marcisdave
Why is it that they will not release an official death count ? I know.....it doesn't matter whether 1 or 100 died, it is a tragedy any way you look at it.....but why not give the public some hard numbers ?

Thru different sources.....I have heard 2 dead, 5 dead, 15 dead, 60 dead, and 70 dead.

What is the reason behind the mystery ?

And or....who are the "authorities" trying to protect ?


I would blame it on the nature of the damage.
First, the first responders are of the volunteer fire department. They come from their jobs and homes in response to the alarm. There is no way to tell for sure who was there when the explosion happened. Single guys with no local family, couples with no kids, someone who "might" be on vacation but "could have" been back and responded. There are no bodies in this type of explosion and fire so you can't be sure for quite a while.
My family tells me that the damage to some of the homes in the immidiate is devestating. It will be very hard to determine exactly who was in these houses or not at the time.
You also have the state an federal agencies comming in claiming jurisdiction. The locals are not going to cooporate well with these outsiders.
You can also blame it on the nature of modern "journalism". No death count might be considered more sensational than an accurate count.
Thank you for your informed and thoughtful posts Cowboy. Now if we could just get you to use paragraphs.
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You also have the state an federal agencies comming in claiming jurisdiction. The locals are not going to cooporate well with these outsiders.
An awful indictment of the character of the people of West, Texas. I hope you're completely wrong.
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You also have the state an federal agencies comming in claiming jurisdiction. The locals are not going to cooporate well with these outsiders.
An awful indictment of the character of the people of West, Texas. I hope you're completely wrong.
I've just been learning the Boston PD, FBI, Massachusetts law enforcement, and several other agencies have been coordinating quite well with each other. If Mass. can do it, so can Texas!

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