I haven’t paid my Obamacare premium in months

I don't doubt that he probably holds their pee pee's when they tinkle.

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Originally posted by: hoops2
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Originally posted by: malibber2
I still haven't paid as of today's mail they haven't sent me the right premium. This is gonna be fun finally a chance to screw the insurance company over.


Don't worry Obama will reimburse the company for their loss


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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
There is no "Insurance Company Bailout".

One might've been able to claim that "there is no insurance company bailout" back when Chicoot's link to the Washington Post was published. That link appropriately references the Obamacare provision for "risk corridors" to partially cover "unexpected losses" by insurance companies with Obamacare funds.
[DonDiego opines it isn't unreasonable to consider this provision a "bailout", . . . as he has reported in this Forum some months ago; but the Washington Post says it's not.]

But now, as published in, f'rinstance, The Albuquerque Journal on 21 May this week, things have, . . . umm, . . changed, . . . umm, . . . again:
"The Obama administration has quietly adjusted key provisions of its signature health care law to potentially make billions of additional taxpayer dollars available to the insurance industry if companies providing coverage through the Affordable Care Act lose money.
The move was buried in hundreds of pages of new regulations issued late last week. It comes as part of an intensive administration effort to hold down premium increases for next year, a top priority for the White House as the rates will be announced ahead of this fall’s congressional elections.
Administration officials for months have denied charges by opponents that they plan a 'bailout' for insurance companies providing coverage under the health care law.
They continue to argue that most insurers shouldn’t need to substantially increase premiums because safeguards in the health care law will protect them over the next several years.
But the change in regulations essentially provides insurers with another backup: If they keep rate increases modest over the next couple of years but lose money, the administration will tap federal funds as needed to cover shortfalls."
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i.e. The Obama fears significant increases in Obamacare insurance premiums may be announced over the next several months, . . . coincidently shortly before the mid-term election this year. The Obama finds this unacceptable.
So the Obama has once again unilaterally - without any Congressional legislative action authorizing additional expenses - changed the Obamacare Law to reward the Obamacare insurers with additional taxpayer dollars if they just keep their premiums low for a little while.
This is at best a simple "bailout". DonDiego suggests it is worse than that, . . . it is simple fraud on the American taxpayers.
There's a reason the Albuquerque Journal put quotes around the word "Bailout" in the title to that article: It's not actually a bailout!



The LA Times did the exact same thing for the exact same news item, putting the word "bailout" in quotes to emphasize it's not really a bailout.



It's not a bailout, but it's being called one by this President's critics. See above.

And if you think it's illegal, sue him. Good luck!
Here is my next big prediction when 2015 premiums come out there will be a significant adjustments to:
The Deductibles and co-pays with even higher co-pays and out of pocket maximums.
Obama will be talking up the catastrophic plan vs. the Bronze/Silver/Gold plans and it will be expanded so it is available for everyone.
The separate out of pocket max on prescription drugs will be extended.

All of this including the aforementioned "bailout" are to hide the premium increases. That way Obama can tout only single digit premium increases instead of the 50% rate increase Well Point has been talking about. In other words they aren't going to increase the premiums much they are just going to give you much less.

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Originally posted by: malibber2
Here is my next big prediction...
How about reprising some of your past predictions; you know, about how hardly anyone was going to sign up and how millions were getting inferior health plans for more money.

I could use a laugh.

I was more right about my Obamacare predictions than I was wrong. I suspect if we went through some of your prior Obamacare predictions we might find quite a few that were off base. Oh and they are inferior health plans compared to the polices most people had through their employer, but the good news as I understand it is that by 2028 almost everybody will know the joys of O-care as employers are phasing out group policies. (as I predicted)

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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: malibber2
Here is my next big prediction...
How about reprising some of your past predictions; you know, about how hardly anyone was going to sign up and how millions were getting inferior health plans for more money.

I could use a laugh.


The important thing is that far far fewer uninsured folks will be insured, and the program will be far far more expensive than promised.


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Originally posted by: malibber2
I was more right about my Obamacare predictions than I was wrong. I suspect if we went through some of your prior Obamacare predictions we might find quite a few that were off base. Oh and they are inferior health plans compared to the polices most people had through their employer, but the good news as I understand it is that by 2028 almost everybody will know the joys of O-care as employers are phasing out group policies. (as I predicted)

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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: malibber2
Here is my next big prediction...
How about reprising some of your past predictions; you know, about how hardly anyone was going to sign up and how millions were getting inferior health plans for more money.

I could use a laugh.



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Originally posted by: Boilerman
The important thing is that far far fewer uninsured folks will be insured, and the program will be far far more expensive than promised.
THE important thing? So does that mean the all of the following "important things" are no longer operative?

  • Death panels!
  • It's unconstitutional!
  • The website is broken and will never, ever work!
  • Insurance company bailout!
  • Obama is a dictating dictator!
  • No one is going to sign up for Obamacare!
  • They're robbing from Medicare!
  • Insurance company bailout! (x2)
  • Illegals are getting all the healthcare!
  • It will bankrupt the US!
  • Policies cost way too much! (Please see: "No one is going to sign up for Obamacare!")
  • No one is paying their premiums!
  • The enrollment numbers have been falsified. Skewed!!!!

    And Boilerman, what do you think the next "The important thing" will be? I can't wait to find out.
  • Death panels! - SEE THE VA

    The website is broken and will never, ever work! - STILL NOT WORKING PROPERLY

    Insurance company bailout! - SEE LAST WEEK'S ANNOUNCEMENT

    Obama is a dictating dictator! - HIS WEEKLY CHANGES TO THE LAW

    No one is going to sign up for Obamacare! MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP HAD THEIR POLICIES CANCELLED BY OBAMACARE. THE LAW WAS INTENDED FOR THE UNINSURED

    They're robbing from Medicare! THE GOVT TOOK SAVINGS FROM MEDICARE AND COUNTED IT AS OBAMACARE SAVINGS

    Insurance company bailout! (x2) SEE ABOVE

    Illegals are getting all the healthcare!

    It will bankrupt the US! LONG TEM PROJECTIONS SHOW TRILLION DOLLAR + DEFICITS

    Policies cost way too much! (Please see: "No one is going to sign up for Obamacare!") STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT COST WAS THE LARGEST REASON WHY PEOPLE DIDN'T SIGN UP

    No one is paying their premiums! STUDIES ARE SHOWING 20% HAVEN'T PAID
    More on the VA scandal

    VA expects to carry over $450 million in medical-care funding from fiscal year 2014 to fiscal year 2015. VA received its full requested medical care appropriation of $54.6 billion this fiscal year, which is more than $10 billion more than it received four years ago.

    This is part of an ongoing trend.

    VA carried over $1.449 billion in medical-care funding from fiscal year 2010 to 2011, $1.163 billion from fiscal year 2011 to fiscal year 2012, $637 million from fiscal year 2012 to 2013, and $543 million from fiscal year 2013 to 2014.

    The Daily Caller reported that VA spent more than $3.5 million on furniture the night before the government shutdown on the last day of fiscal year 2013 so as not to lose that money in the department’s budget the next fiscal year
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