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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: Number51
The shutdown is not ending for one reason. There are enough teabaggers that want the shutdown to continue, and the rest of the Republican party is afraid of them. If the mainstream Republicans grew a pair, and broke from the teabaggers, the shutdown ends tomorrow. That will take some serious Republican leadership, I don't see it happening.
Stop looking for bad guys, there is a group that has already taken full responsibility for the shutdown, they are laughing and bragging about their accomplishment.
Do you want the shutdown to end? Focus. Call your Republican Congressperson, and tell him / her to end it.
Translation: Republicans need to become Democrats to get anything done with this Senate and President.
Obama's press conference today was an absolute joke. He couldn't say the words "hostage" or "ransom" often enough. He did refrain from calling Republicans "terrorists", but I'm not sure why. It could be because he will negotiate with real terrorists. His claim that he is willing to negotiate anything AFTER it is passed is absolute BS. Gimme everything I want, then you can have the privilege of asking me to talk about a compromise...and I'll think about it never.
No. Republicans are becoming teabaggers. Until you admit the truth, that the teabaggers wanted this shutdown, got exactly what they wanted, and are completely thrilled with this shutdown, you will play the Dem/Rep game. This has nothing to do with any groups except Republicans and teabaggers.
Keep ignoring the fact that some "Republicans" are congratulating themselves for causing the shutdown, while others claim to think it's terrible.
You tell me Bob, which one of these is the shutdown:
1. An amazing triumph for the Republican Party.
2. A terrible disaster.
It seems to depend on which Republican you ask. Where do you stand? For or against the teabaggers? For or against the shutdown?
If and when you (and most ignorant radical liberals) stop referring to conservatives using a sexual act to describe them, don't expect much dialog.
The White House not only wanted this shut down, it instructed agencies involved to make it as painful as possible. Ban veterans and the general public from open air memorials, monuments and national parks, but allow an illegal immigration rally on the national mall with the flag of Mexico hoisted high. That is an amazing triumph for the Democrat Party! They don't care how long it lasts as long as they think "they're winning". Given that ABC, NBC and CBS all place 100% of blame for this on Republicans, as they did when Clinton shut down the government, most low information people won't know any better.
The shut down is not a triumph for the Republican Party. House Republicans passed funding the government via a CR 4 times before the shut down. The Senate said no. Obama said no. House Republicans pass legislation to fund some parts of government that Obama selected to be shut down. The Senate said no. Obama said no. It is the dictator living in the White House who is in charge of, and responsible for, all of this. It really is that simple.
