Plaza to charge RESORT FEE

Your problem, AL, is that you just keep lying to yourself. The $18 and the $10 are the ADVERTISED PRICE of admission, they are not the VALUE of admission. By your logic, if a particular prostitute said her regular fee was $200, but that prostitute gave her services "free" with a $150 "resort fee," then the resort fee would be a good value. (As long as AL himself, and other people who liked that prostitute, were willing to pay the "resort fee.")

You see, you CANNOT POSSIBLY separate your PERSONAL perception, that you like the tower at the Strat, from the issue at hand, the issue I RAISED, which is whether admission to the tower should be charged as a resort fee. I.e. whether everyone who stays at the Strat should be charged for admission to the tower. The common word for this is ignorance. You are unwilling to consider a viewpoint that is 180 degrees contrary to your own.

The issue is clear, whether it would be a simple matter to allow someone to stay at the Strat WITHOUT charging them anything for tower admission. I contend that this could be done very easily, that admission to the tower COULD VERY EASILY be restricted to those who chose to pay. You keep changing the subject to how many people enjoy the tower, presumably because YOU DO. I.e. you are unable to see the world through your neighbor's eyes.

Actually, YOUR issue is a fantasy world issue. Whether or not they COULD separate out tower admisssion makes ZERO difference. Fact of the matter is that they DON"T...and there's nothing you can do about that....except choose not to stay there....BUT basing any kind of decision on what they could have done instead of the actual VALUE of the Room + Amenities compared to the cost of the room + resort fee is just plain...well not smart.

I think the vast majority of those who stay at the Strat consider the resort fee a great value because most people who stay there actually visit the Tower. That is the real subject...based on my comments that the Strat Fees return more value than others...and if you think the value is less than $18.00 per Adult, next time you visit the tower, try to negotiate the fee like you might with your prostitute.

Bottom line is I don't think we're ever going to see eye to eye on this. I look at the $7.50 Strat Resort fee in the real world and see a great value for most consumers. You look at it and see something that could be improved in your Fantasy World.

My comments continue to point out a little known, high value benefit that's part of a very low fee. Your comments just whine about how it was implemented. I'll let the readers decide which is more valuable to them.

Actually, no, you DON'T WANT the readers to decide. You want the Strat to MAKE DECISIONS for them. I'm the one, on this particular ammenitity, advocating individual choice. (Again with the lies one tells to oneself.)

And my argument goes beyond this particular ammenity. Hotel guests should not be taxed by "resort fees" for added benefits, if those benefits could EASILY be provided separately. If a hotel could EASILY provide a package of ammenities to those who "opt in" they should not blindly charge all guests for those ammenities.

I'll let the readers decide which of our comments might add value to them. I'll let the readers decide if they find enough value in the Tower admission compared to the resort fee. I guess you're advocating the drmilled approach that consumers should not stay at a joint that charges resort fees (if the hotel could have easily broken out the amenities in your case)....regardless of value...Is that what you're saying...Otherwise your suggestion is meaningless.

I was pointing out the relative value of our comments. Mine might even help someone who did not know that unlike most resort fees, the Strat resort fee includes a major Vegas attraction and adds great value at low cost. You're just complaining that they could have done it differently....Big whoopdedo. No one cares about your theoretical way for the Strat to charge fees. They care about what really exists and what value it is to them.

Alanleroy- just for your information, you can avoid the Tower admission fee if you are visiting the Lounge or if you make reservations to the Top of the World restaurant.

Yeah, I knew that...it is a 2 drink per person min in the Lounge and you are actually supposed to eat lunch or dinner at the Top of the World...So I guess the Resort Fee is also not as good a deal for those who were going to Eat at the Restaurant or Drink at the Lounge anyway....but it is good for Unlimited Access so it's extra good for those who use it more than once a day....

Point being, at $7.50, it has always been a great value for me and most other guests.

Too many people get way too excited about this "resort fee" stuff. Simple economics and make your own decision. For instance, I am a small roller. Usually go to Vegas once a year for 4 nights on the weekday in September. The Orleans Casino has been offering my 2 nights free and the other 2 nights at casino rate for years. I just automatically add the $6 per paid night resort fee into my calculation. Monday-free, Tuesday-free, Wed. $26+$6RF+tax, Thurs. $26+$6RF+tax. Also includes a $10 dining credit. I usually end up paying just over $70. For how much I gamble, I consider it a very good deal. Free shuttle service to the strip (I always tip a buck), in-room coffee, nice pool area. I am not a wi-fi person, so that doesn't enter into my equation. My point, even with the "resort fee", I feel I am getting a good value. Plus I love the 9/7 DB $.05 triple-play progressive!

This is my only point. Guests should be allowed to make their own decisions, when that solution (individual choice) is feasible. If it's too difficult for the hotel to allow opt in/opt out, then the guest has the choice to stay elsewhere.

However, it is bad management and bad marketing to require all guests to pay (a tax) for maintenance of a separate facility (spa, restaurant, night club, various tourist attractions, etc., i.e. something that is ORDINARILY separate from a nightly or weekly stay). This interferes with the economic choices of both the guests and the management, and thereby reduces social welfare, i.e. GDP.

I can't agree with that. A "Resort Fee", invariably hidden in the middle of fine print and designed to not be noticed by all but the most savvy consumer, turns me off a property. Say I book at the Riviera for January knowing its $11 Resort Fee. What' to stop them from raising it to $21 or $31 in the meantime without any notice? See- a property that has a resort fee loses my trust by being sneaky and slimy from the git go. I refuse to stay at one when there are plenty (not just HET properties) that have no such sneak fees. Charge me what you quote me plus tax with no fine print fee and I am happy.

I just found out from a Plaza Host that this Resort Fee at Plaza is not charged to those who are receiving Comp Room nights.

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