Plaza to charge RESORT FEE

That's not true at all.

There is more than one tax umbrella for rental cars in Vegas. A person who picks up a car at the airport pays both an Airport Concession Fee and a Rental Car Facility Fee. Both can be avoided by renting off-airport. As with resort fees, the visitor has a choice.

I think agnes has exposed another inconsistency in drmilled's approach to Vegas add-on fees.

Hey Doc, how do you like that hole you're digging for yourself. Ain't it deep enough yet???

You're just arguing arguing for arguments sake now or your really thick,actually I think a bit of both. He was singling out the strat, NOT talking about parceling out daily newspapers at MGM grand, SHEESH!

Um, he clearly said newspapers could be easily segregated. Now you say he wasn't talking about newspapers. And you say that I'm arguing for arguments sake.

My point was quite, quite simple, i.e. the customer should be allowed a choice when allowing the choice is easy. Neither of you choose to acknowledge a simple point, rather you call me thick.

That's right. Marcus and I have our own definitions of "Good" and "Bad" resort fees. He classes as bad any fees that he thinks can be 'easily' separated out. I classify as 'Good' any fee that adds great value for most guests. For example, I never buy a newspaper when I'm on vacation, so adding a paper and calling it a Resort fee doesn't add value for me. That's bad for me since I'm stuck paying for it, but toss it in the trash, but apparantely good for Marcus...since he thinks it's really hard to determine who wants to opt in for a paper and who doesn't. Here's a hint...instead of throwing it into a resort fee, put it in Newspaper machine and let those that want one buy one....Separated out with no fuss whatsoever.

Whether or not it's easy to turn on or off is actually irrelevant...Gauge the fees by what it adds to your vacation vs what it costs. In the case of the Strat it adds a great deal for most consumers.

Newspaper machines are expensive, inconvenient, difficult to maintain, difficult to police, and difficult to keep stocked appropriately. Rather than calling me thick, denying reality, and continuously reiterating YOUR PERSONAL perceptions about the value of tower access, you might just open your mind, just a bit.

It is DIFFICULT for a hotel to get the exact newspaper to the exact customer, and do that with an appropriate service quality. It ISN'T difficult to let people into the Strat tower IF THEY CHOOSE to go in. How can you possibly have such a hard time with that?

Geez. And, I thought Keeping up with the Kardashians was easy.

Seriously though, if one sees value in a package that includes a resort fee, so be it. It's THEIR vacation, THEIR money and CHOICE of how to spend it.

Oh I understand it perfectly...I just consider it irrelevant to anything in the 'Real World'....like a decision to Stay at the Strat or anywhere else for that matter. It only serves to illustrate your personal made up way to rate good and bad resort fees.

My personal made up way to rate good and bad resort fees is based on how much the fee is vs how much it saves me (and most consumers). It has nothing to do with how difficult it would be to separate them out...they are what they are and we make decisions based on reality, not based on how we think the hotels should be run....at least those of us living in the real world do.

My contention has been that most people who stay at the Strat will visit the Tower regardless of whether it is included in the resort fee or not. Therefore it is a great value Specific to the Strat for most consumers. Who really cares if they 'could' separate it out? Only the very small % who stay at the Strat and don't visit the Tower...OR those who pass on the strat because they don't want to visit the tower and the $7.50 makes the difference in their decision. Well for their $7.50 they can enjoy their telephone at the strat or somewhere else....oh and maybe the armchair Casino execs who base their Good and Bad fees on a different calculation...I'm sure in their Fantasy world, their Casinos are very successful.

You people need to lighten up on Drmilled. I find him rather charming. I have always been turned on by boorish imps (I use the term affectionately) in a bad girl kind of way.