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Originally posted by: Tutontow
No, I am not jealous, just angry. If there is one place I am truly embarrassed about our great nation it is corporate greed. Here is a prime example. The CEO of Wal-Mart makes more in an hour than most of his emloyees earn in a year.
His compensation is right around 20 million a year. Maybe if him and his peers took a little less compensation they could help their workers afford the healthcare Wal-Mart offers.
BTW how do you know I am not on "financial footing" with you? You sound mighty stuck on yourself with that statement. Believe me I have corrected more than one person when they tell me how lucky I am to have my lifestyle and be retired at 55 years old. I have to tell them luck has nothing to do with it, hard work, planning and a budget had everything to do with it.
Nothing is wrong with your ambition to want more as long as you don't screw people along the way to get where you are. My heartburn is people I know personally who can afford to spend $1000.00 on fuel for an evening out in their boat yet they pay the people in their office minimum wage and believe me I know how valuable those woman are to his livelihood.
Originally posted by: Tutontow
No, I am not jealous, just angry. If there is one place I am truly embarrassed about our great nation it is corporate greed. Here is a prime example. The CEO of Wal-Mart makes more in an hour than most of his emloyees earn in a year.
His compensation is right around 20 million a year. Maybe if him and his peers took a little less compensation they could help their workers afford the healthcare Wal-Mart offers.
BTW how do you know I am not on "financial footing" with you? You sound mighty stuck on yourself with that statement. Believe me I have corrected more than one person when they tell me how lucky I am to have my lifestyle and be retired at 55 years old. I have to tell them luck has nothing to do with it, hard work, planning and a budget had everything to do with it.
Nothing is wrong with your ambition to want more as long as you don't screw people along the way to get where you are. My heartburn is people I know personally who can afford to spend $1000.00 on fuel for an evening out in their boat yet they pay the people in their office minimum wage and believe me I know how valuable those woman are to his livelihood.
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Originally posted by: CowboyKell
Why does this bother you? Are you jealous?
By the criteria put forth, and I will admit by almost all standards, I am rich. I earned my wealth through hard work and smart management of all my assets. You could have done the very same thing and been on an equal financial footing as myself. For some reason that is all your own you chose not to.
The income gap (it is not a "disparity") will always exist. There will always be those who will work as hard as need be and take advantage of every opportunity available all the way down to using coupons at the grocery store (which I still do). And there will always be those who just don't want to work that hard (there is nothing wrong with that) and can't be bothered with getting the best value out of life.
So my question to you is, What is wrong with my ambition to want more?
You are right, my statement does sound a little stuck up. And sometimes I am a little overly proud.
I make my assumption of your status based on your own remarks. You said 'they' not 'we'. Also, I know of no one in a upper income bracket that would be angry at anyone else for making as much money as they can.
Even that sounds a little accusatory. I don't mean it that way. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and every opinion is valid.
The high earning CEOs of corporations are obviously worth their pay or the stockholders would terminate them. If they are wrong in the way they operate their business or in the way they treat their employees then someone else will come along with a better business plan and replace them. If one personally objects to a particular corporation then they should start their own company in competition and out perform them.
All of the employees I have had over the years have each been individually necessary for my success. If not why would I employ them? Many were only paid minimum wage. On more than one occasion I had employees who earned more than I did. Each to their own performance and worth. Every employee has had the right to work for me, work for a competitor or become a competitor. Some did.
With the exception of employees' who chose collective bargaining, everyone was encouraged to seek out the best compensation they could earn. I always paid what I believed they were worth. Employee compensation is usually a companies biggest expense and therefore the first place to stay competitive. Pay to little and you get an inferior workforce. Too much and you cant price your product competitively.
I personally believe the root cause of perceived corporate greed and the gap in income levels is the SUCCESS of the middle class. Particularly the popularity of the 401k investment in the public stock markets. As the working class has made more money (no, not relative in your argument but they are making more than ever before) more and more people are investing in public companies. All of these investors believe they should have double digit returns on their money and they are not going to get it without the perceived "greed". Perhaps it is a self perpetuating spiral. Up or down according to ones personal view.
Anger is such a negative emotion and almost always un-productive. Those who seek change out of anger never create the change they truly seek. Those who see an injustice and work positively for change are the ones who truly create change for the good.