Rob Singer banned from another forum board

I guess I was lucky, I didn't really start hanging out here(or anywhere for that matter) til after the Singer days. Was he really that bad?

J
It's all in the eyes of the beholder I guess jatki99. Alan Mendelsen had a thing for Singer.
Yea, I was here for money LA and remember that. I never read all those threads tho. Talking about the nuances of how one can throw a die lost me on page 2. I think that one went on for 5-6 pages.

J
I wasn't here for the Rob Singer days either, but I do remember reading his video poker column in Gaming Today many years ago. He seemed to me to be an insufferably conceited ass who used his articles to brag about how superior his VP strategies were to the rest of the gambling experts. As far as I could tell, he never actually mentioned any specific strategies that would be of use to any of his readers, beyond employing a Martingale-type progressive betting strategy when he was losing. His column was a far cry from Eliot Frome's writing, which actually did provide a lot of useful advice and information for amateur VP players like myself.

I've never read or even heard of Gaming today until about a year ago. I've seen the Frome column, but so far everything he's written that I read has been regularly available info on-line or on the big forum VPfree. One thing I've seen on the Mendelsen site, in one of the threads I did see Singer detail his entire strategy for the people who were asking. I couldn't follow it because I like to keep it simple. It's pretty long but it is there in case you like a puzzle.
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I'm not a college graduate, and you're right about my comment above. It was made without thought. My older brother fought in Vietnam and I picked up on some of his feelings in the years since. But that in no way reduces the amount of nastiness we see here at times. People are more than ready to jump on another poster if they slip up and say something unbecoming or just plain wrong.


...or twist your words and C & P part of your post, leaving out words and explanations for your post.


You are lying, treegirl. What a surprise. I didn't twist anybody's words, or C&P part of anybody's post. I quoted a full and complete post. If albeadle wants to make a feeble attempt at explaining himself, so be it. You, however, are irrelevant here.


Oh put your panties back on! Did I say anything about you?
No.
It wasn't about you.
Hi all. Rob appeared to get angry with me, and started to attack me, when I questioned him about several claims he made on my forum. Those claims were:

1. He was able to deduct on his taxes the cost of groceries as a business expense -- and the business was a professional gambler. He claimed that he convinced the IRS during an audit that his common groceries were legitimately deductible because he consumed the groceries while working as a professional gambler either giving advice, or teaching, or plying his trade. He never presented evidence.

2. Rob was critical of anyone and everyone who was part of a players club because he said being part of a players club meant you were either addicted or a victim of the casino's marketing. When I pointed out to him that as a winner himself he left thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars "on the table" by not being a member of a players club he blasted me saying I was an addict.

3. Rob was very critical of Bob Dancer after his divorce and Rob said on my forum that he predicted Dancer's marriage would fail when Dancer got married. I simply pointed out that Dancer's failed marriage lasted 13 years and it took Rob 13 years to get that one right. Rob blamed Dancer's addiction to gambling as the reason for is divorce. (Get the picture yet? If you don't agree with Rob you're addicted to gambling.)

4. Rob said he was going to write two articles for Gaming Today in which he intended to criticize various people publicly for everything from their financial failures to their gambling addictions, and their bad information about video poker and their lack of knowledge about how the games are really rigged. He was also going to single out an anonymous poster who failed to send to me his own personal tax returns so that I could verify his claims about winning at video poker. At the same time Singer was supposed to send me his personal tax returns. When Singer elected not to send me his personal tax returns to back up his claims (including the claim about deducting groceries) he said the anonymous poster should still send in his personal returns. I said there was no reason for the player to do that -- because there really was no challenge. The only real issue was Singer's tax returns.

5. When I said that I was on my third marriage Rob alleged that my previous divorces were caused by gambling. What Rob didn't know was that my first marriage that ended in 1985 was before I ever was in a Vegas casino or played video poker or craps; My second marriage which ended in 2001 was a short marriage that occurred again before I was a casino player. He blamed both of my failed marriages on being a gambling addict.

But before I criticized him, Rob was my good buddy. He congratulated me on my video poker wins and how I could win on negative expectation games contrary to what the APs said -- and of course that is his theme.

For the record, I am leaving Rob's videos describing his strategies on my site. When I recorded those interviews with him my goal was to have one place on the Internet where everyone could see them and make up their own mind about his strategy and special plays. I never played his "system."

And I want to say that Rob was not banned from my site just for turning on me. He was just a poor community member and I pleaded with him in personal phone calls to stop his vicious personal attacks and he just wouldn't. Yes, you could say his personal attack on me was the last straw.
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Originally posted by: albeadle33
I'm not a college graduate, and you're right about my comment above. It was made without thought. My older brother fought in Vietnam and I picked up on some of his feelings in the years since. But that in no way reduces the amount of nastiness we see here at times. People are more than ready to jump on another poster if they slip up and say something unbecoming or just plain wrong.


...or twist your words and C & P part of your post, leaving out words and explanations for your post.


You are lying, treegirl. What a surprise. I didn't twist anybody's words, or C&P part of anybody's post. I quoted a full and complete post. If albeadle wants to make a feeble attempt at explaining himself, so be it. You, however, are irrelevant here.


Oh put your panties back on! Did I say anything about you?
No.
It wasn't about you.


Busted again, so you attack me. No surprise here. What is this fixation with panties?

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Originally posted by: albeadle33
I'm not a college graduate, and you're right about my comment above. It was made without thought. My older brother fought in Vietnam and I picked up on some of his feelings in the years since. But that in no way reduces the amount of nastiness we see here at times. People are more than ready to jump on another poster if they slip up and say something unbecoming or just plain wrong.


...or twist your words and C & P part of your post, leaving out words and explanations for your post.


You are lying, treegirl. What a surprise. I didn't twist anybody's words, or C&P part of anybody's post. I quoted a full and complete post. If albeadle wants to make a feeble attempt at explaining himself, so be it. You, however, are irrelevant here.


Oh put your panties back on! Did I say anything about you?
No.
It wasn't about you.


Busted again, so you attack me. No surprise here. What is this fixation with panties?


Busted? On what? I was just agreeing with the post that talked about being attacked.
Stop being so paranoid. The panties line was to get yours in a bunch.
I see it worked.
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Originally posted by: albeadle33
I'm not a college graduate, and you're right about my comment above. It was made without thought. My older brother fought in Vietnam and I picked up on some of his feelings in the years since. But that in no way reduces the amount of nastiness we see here at times. People are more than ready to jump on another poster if they slip up and say something unbecoming or just plain wrong.


...or twist your words and C & P part of your post, leaving out words and explanations for your post.


You are lying, treegirl. What a surprise. I didn't twist anybody's words, or C&P part of anybody's post. I quoted a full and complete post. If albeadle wants to make a feeble attempt at explaining himself, so be it. You, however, are irrelevant here.


Oh put your panties back on! Did I say anything about you?
No.
It wasn't about you.


Busted again, so you attack me. No surprise here. What is this fixation with panties?


Busted? On what? I was just agreeing with the post that talked about being attacked.
Stop being so paranoid. The panties line was to get yours in a bunch.
I see it worked.


Still hung up on the panties thing, aren't you, irrelevantgirl...

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