Target and Obamacare

Again, as he demonstrated for months, malibber2's problem is not with Obamacare. It's with the concept of private health insurance. He won't support any program that includes private health insurance.

By the way, as of mid-December we're already at 1.82 million signups in private insurance on the way to this spring's target of 7.06 million.

I do disagree with you because what Obama did is take a bad system (private insurance) and make it worse for a lot folks. It is like he sat down and asked himself "What is the problem with our healthcare system?" He answered it with I know "the premiums, deductibles and co-pays of private insurance aren't high enough, the prescription drug coverage is too inclusive and oh people have too many damn choices when it comes to which doctors and hospitals they use. "
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
...Plan B, a total government takeover of healthcare has always really been plan A. The takeover of health Insurance is only a temporary distraction. It is the camel's nose under the tent...
Now where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, Medicare!



Tell me, what's so bad about a single payer system such as Canada has? Or why not a national insurance plan for the uninsurable similar to flood insurance?

People who live in flood areas buy insurance from FEMA, why not offer insurance under HHS? This whole business of millions of people who lost their plans and drs over mamograms and bc pills is insanity at its worst.

The website that was constructed by the keystone cops was hilarious but the reality of the whole ACA is not.


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Medicare which is the single payer for seniors has a 30t unfunded deficit. If the Feds took over everything, the unfunded deficit could easily double.
Yet the CBO consistently says Medicare for all is the cheapest healthcare system we could come up with. It is cheaper than old system and cheaper than Obamacare.

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Medicare which is the single payer for seniors has a 30t unfunded deficit. If the Feds took over everything, the unfunded deficit could easily double.


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Originally posted by: loydthelover
What do they have in common?

You don't want to give either one your personal information!

Although poor old DonDiego cannot disagree with loydthelover's conclusion, there is a difference.

In the event of a security breach Target and all other businesses are likely to inform their customers of the breach, because they are required by Federal Law to do.

Obamacare, . . . umm, not so much.
on March 27, 2012, at a meeting on the issue of data security for Obamacare two commenters asked Health and Human Services (HHS) to ensure the exchanges would promptly notify affected enrollees in the event of a data breach or unauthorized access to the exchange’s databases. One commenter suggested that a full investigation be launched each time such a breach occurred, with the goal of holding hackers legally and financially accountable for breaking into the website.
HHS responded: “We do not plan to include the specific notification procedures in the final rule. Consistent with this approach, we do not include specific policies for investigation of data breaches in this final rule.”
So the Government doesn’t have to tell you about a security breach unless it decides it wants to — despite the fact that private companies are required to publicly disclose any incidents. State laws also require many of the 14 state-run insurance exchanges to disclose such information, but no such law exists for the Federally run exchange, which 36 states rely upon.

Ref: National Review
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: loydthelover
What do they have in common?

You don't want to give either one your personal information!

Although poor old DonDiego cannot disagree with loydthelover's conclusion, there is a difference.

In the event of a security breach Target and all other businesses are likely to inform their customers of the breach, because they are required by Federal Law to do.

Obamacare, . . . umm, not so much.
on March 27, 2012, at a meeting on the issue of data security for Obamacare two commenters asked Health and Human Services (HHS) to ensure the exchanges would promptly notify affected enrollees in the event of a data breach or unauthorized access to the exchange’s databases. One commenter suggested that a full investigation be launched each time such a breach occurred, with the goal of holding hackers legally and financially accountable for breaking into the website.
HHS responded: “We do not plan to include the specific notification procedures in the final rule. Consistent with this approach, we do not include specific policies for investigation of data breaches in this final rule.”
So the Government doesn’t have to tell you about a security breach unless it decides it wants to — despite the fact that private companies are required to publicly disclose any incidents. State laws also require many of the 14 state-run insurance exchanges to disclose such information, but no such law exists for the Federally run exchange, which 36 states rely upon.

Ref: National Review


Hmm..that should give the warm and fuzzys to all
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Originally posted by: malibber2
Yet the CBO consistently says Medicare for all is the cheapest healthcare system we could come up with. It is cheaper than old system and cheaper than Obamacare.

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Medicare which is the single payer for seniors has a 30t unfunded deficit. If the Feds took over everything, the unfunded deficit could easily double.



The problem is that eventually Medicare costs will exceed Medicare revenue. In the not to distant future Medicare, social security and interest will exceed all tax revenue
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Originally posted by: hoops2
In the not to distant future Medicare, social security and interest will exceed all tax revenue
Classic hoops2 fear-mongering bs.



hoops2 never provides any links for the bs he spreads here. He can't, because what he posts is never true.

Just watch.
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