Texas middle school principal fired for urging kids to speak English

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Its likely a good thing that Spanish students dont understand what their Texas teachers are saying. The altered right wing curriculum for teachers in Texas now includes Creationism as a viable theory of the Universe (something any amateur geologist can refute in 5 minutes)...and Jefferson Davis's Inaugural address speech.....and a larger emphasis on Christian Church Pioneers like John Calvin as opposed to our country's founding fathers - like Thomas Jefferson.

Spending 5 minutes in a Texas school would be enough to make me envious of Hellen Keller.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Its likely a good thing that Spanish students dont understand what their Texas teachers are saying. The altered right wing curriculum for teachers in Texas now includes Creationism as a viable theory of the Universe (something any amateur geologist can refute in 5 minutes)...and Jefferson Davis's Inaugural address speech.....and a larger emphasis on Christian Church Pioneers like John Calvin as opposed to our country's founding fathers - like Thomas Jefferson.

Spending 5 minutes in a Texas school would be enough to make me envious of Hellen Keller.

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Originally posted by: alexlifeson

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Its likely a good thing that Spanish students dont understand what their Texas teachers are saying. The altered right wing curriculum for teachers in Texas now includes Creationism as a viable theory of the Universe (something any amateur geologist can refute in 5 minutes)...and Jefferson Davis's Inaugural address speech.....and a larger emphasis on Christian Church Pioneers like John Calvin as opposed to our country's founding fathers - like Thomas Jefferson.

Spending 5 minutes in a Texas school would be enough to make me envious of Hellen Keller.

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That's interesting since I didn't encounter any of that in my curriculum in Texas but I will assume that you do mean "now" in your post. In fact, I have no freaking clue who John Calvin is but Thomas Jefferson was certainly studied. Please don't be offended if I don't take your word for the claims about the Texas Curriculum. I'll ask some friends and colleagues if their children are learning Creationism but I find it highly unlikely in my urban area. It's possible that some very rural areas are doing this. Many Hispanic people in Texas are religious so they might want to learn about Creationism even though I don't personally support it. However, there is no need for you to worry about what they learn. They will still vote Democrat either way.

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Originally posted by: ksucidlo
I consider myself a liberal, but I don't see anything wrong with expecting children to speak English in school. It is preparing them for the real world, and allowing them to communicate in their native tongue all the time is going to hold them back. The accommodation that should be made is when there is an emergency situation...many people get flustered in such circumstances and having someone who can understand and translate what they're upset about is a plus. I also think if they want to converse with their friends in their own language during lunch or recess, that should be allowed...but in the classroom or when addressing teachers, I agree that English is best...so please don't generalize about liberals (or anyone else for that matter) we're not clones. k

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Here's another example where a Liberal policy of coddling is certain to leave children woefully unprepared for life. With Liberals it's always about intent, not performance.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/8/principal-fired-telling-students-speak-english/

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Jefferson is not well liked among conservatives on the board because he coined the term “separation between church and state.”

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DonDiego, a self-proclaimed Libertarian/Conservative considers President Jefferson to be among the finest of the Founding Fathers. His thoughts and writings on the ideals of American governance are part of the bedrock upon which the nation stands.

DonDiego supposes James C. McKinley Jr. of the New York Times, and apparently pjstroh, conflate the terms "conservative" and "religious fundamentalist", . . . likely intentionally, so as to belittle the conservatives.
__Political Conservatives/Libertarians support the idea of adherence to the Constitution and, hence, less Government interference in the lives of America's citizens. They may embrace a religion, . . . most politicians, even "liberals", go to church at least during campaigns for photo opportunities, . . . or not. And there's nothing wrong with applying some of the principles of religion in one's life or in government - like not killing, not lying, and not stealing.
__Religious Fundamentalists really, really believe in their chosen religious dogma and really, really believe if it were imposed on everyone, the world would be a better place. It might, . . . but pr'bly not, especially with regard to enforcing such an imposition.

So, . . . taking poor old DonDiego as an example, it is quite possible to be a "conservative" and oppose the inclusion of Christian fundamentalist beliefs (e.g. creationism) in one's State's textbooks. That folks of different political persuasions endeavor to influence textbooks is not surprising; DonDiego says they just gotta work things out.

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Originally posted by: chefantwon
In this country we speakie Engrish. That be our language and we should be doing the needful and learning it so we can all converse with one another.

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Originally posted by: DonDiego

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Jefferson is not well liked among conservatives on the board because he coined the term “separation between church and state.”

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DonDiego, a self-proclaimed Libertarian/Conservative considers President Jefferson to be among the finest of the Founding Fathers. His thoughts and writings on the ideals of American governance are part of the bedrock upon which the nation stands.

DonDiego supposes James C. McKinley Jr. of the New York Times, and apparently pjstroh, conflate the terms "conservative" and "religious fundamentalist", . . . likely intentionally, so as to belittle the conservatives.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: DonDiego

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Jefferson is not well liked among conservatives on the board because he coined the term “separation between church and state.”

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DonDiego, a self-proclaimed Libertarian/Conservative considers President Jefferson to be among the finest of the Founding Fathers. His thoughts and writings on the ideals of American governance are part of the bedrock upon which the nation stands.

DonDiego supposes James C. McKinley Jr. of the New York Times, and apparently pjstroh, conflate the terms "conservative" and "religious fundamentalist", . . . likely intentionally, so as to belittle the conservatives.

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Me? Belittle conservatives? Poppycock! OK - maybe a little.

Its true that "Libertarians" and "Conservatives" are not the same people....although the latter group would frequently like you to believe so.

I frequently disagree with people like Rand Paul but I at least respect the fact that he is largely a true believer of his principals regarding smaller government. He is polar opposite of people like Paul Ryan who preach that same message while advocating policy like: more military spending, more government giveaways to corporations, interference with women's health, government interference with marriage, voter suppression, Patriot Act spying and on and on and on.

In summary, don't blame me for conflating the terms by which fundamentalists have perverted the definition of "conservative"....blame the religious right starting with every Republican candidate for president since Bob Dole.

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII

That cuts both ways. Liberalism was traditionally associated with a commitment to limited government and laissez-faire economic policies. Now it's been perverted to mean the welfare-state policies of Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Damn conflagrators.

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
Damn conflagrators.

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