There you go conservatives: Obamacare is failing

The best analysis yet on how this Obamacare mess will all play out politically from a Democrat consultant with close ties to the White House. That analysis: "Dem Party is F****D. We will own this problem forever."

And only about 10 days after forkush and other liberals were saying on here that the Repubs are fading into irrelevancy. Still anxious to see the 2014 midterms get here?

https://www.mediaite.com/online/senior-democratic-consultant-with-strong-ties-to-wh-on-obamacare-dem-party-is-fed/
Nah. It will have to be seriously reworked from the ground up, but that isn't going to happen until after Obama's term is up. The real collapse will come when 2015 premiums are announced based on 2014s loss ratio. I suspect Hillary will be able to make a lot of changes to it after O is gone. Republicans are still floundering. If they want to do something about Obamacare or win elections they have to announce what their alternative plan is. So far I haven't seen anything other than the usual BS across state lines crap which is nothing more than an Insurance Industry wet dream. Solutions not complaints win elections.
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Hannity gets busted for lying about the ACA on his show. His panel of "ordinary couples" whose lives are shattererd by the new law turns out to be a complete lie.
Hannity Fact Checked

My favorite part is the couple that complained about a 50% increase in an insurance plan that forces them to get more coverage than they need. Then they confess to not actually shopping the exchange. Then its revealed a plan on the exchange gives them more coverage AND costs half of what they are paying now.

Whoops.


Hannity and other Fox sheep are nothing but paid shills. Bought and paid for by the Koch Brothers and the Grand Old Party.

The only thing Fox anchor's report is what the Repub party tells them to report. Hatred, lies, and distorting the truth is what you will find on the "fair and balanced" network.

I go over to that channel when I need a good laugh. They never fail to disappoint when it comes to comic relief.
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: mola76
I think the only way to solve these problems is to educate the voters.
Any ideas on how and if that will ever happen?
Consumer Reports magazine?



That article says the only way to lower your premiums is to go somewhere other than heathcare.gov.


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Originally posted by: marcisdave
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Hannity gets busted for lying about the ACA on his show. His panel of "ordinary couples" whose lives are shattererd by the new law turns out to be a complete lie.
Hannity Fact Checked

My favorite part is the couple that complained about a 50% increase in an insurance plan that forces them to get more coverage than they need. Then they confess to not actually shopping the exchange. Then its revealed a plan on the exchange gives them more coverage AND costs half of what they are paying now.

Whoops.


Hannity and other Fox sheep are nothing but paid shills. Bought and paid for by the Koch Brothers and the Grand Old Party.

The only thing Fox anchor's report is what the Repub party tells them to report. Hatred, lies, and distorting the truth is what you will find on the "fair and balanced" network.

I go over to that channel when I need a good laugh. They never fail to disappoint when it comes to comic relief.


When Obama gets pissed about negative coverage, his goon squad takes care of it. They manipulate the MSM coverage. Dictators do that.

CNN ancor admits it!
So did the moderators decide to consolidate the obamacare debate into one thread or was somebody a bad boy?
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: mola76
I think the only way to solve these problems is to educate the voters.
Any ideas on how and if that will ever happen?
Consumer Reports magazine?



That article says the only way to lower your premiums is to go somewhere other than heathcare.gov.
Oh dear, I'm going to have to ask BobOrme a question he really doesn't want to answer:

Hey dude, just where does Consumer Reports Magazine say is the BEST place to buy coverage on your own?
Today's Washington Washington Post Fact Checker weighs in on White House Obamacare pronouncements.

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“That means that no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”
– President Obama, speech to the American Medical Association, June 15, 2009 (as the health care law was being written.)

“And if you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. No one will be able to take that away from you. It hasn’t happened yet. It won’t happen in the future.”
– Obama, remarks in Portland, April 1, 2010, after the health care law was signed into law.

“FACT: Nothing in #Obamacare forces people out of their health plans. No change is required unless insurance companies change existing plans.”
– tweet by Obama aide Valerie Jarrett, Oct. 28, 2013, after NBC News airs a report that the Obama administration knew “millions” could not keep their health insurance.

***endquote***

The Fact Checker's succinct analysis:
"The president’s promise apparently came with a very large caveat: 'If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan — if we deem it to be adequate.' "
[boldface added - DD]

Sebelius testified at a House hearing that originally was called to address the glitch-ridden ObamaCare website. Sebelius personally apologized for those failures and told lawmakers: "Hold me accountable for the debacle. I'm responsible."

Since she is responsible maybe someone other than a phone operator will get fired.
If Sebelius is admitting to be responsible for the debacle, then Obama should be held accountable for lying to the American people - they both should be fired.
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