There you go conservatives: Obamacare is failing

Hoops, do you think premiums from cancer patients bring in more revenue than the Insurance companies dole out for their care?

Tell you what....Lets just give you a pass on that one.

Pj - what is your point?

You said forkush was wrong for saying insurance companies would cancel policies belonging to sick people.
But they did. In fact, they did it alot...because insurers dont make money off people with expensive illnesses/ailments.

I cant imagine why anyone would advocate we go back to such a system. But thats exactly what the Boehner Congress has voted for 40+ times. And they have Hoops support.

Typical fact-free post by hoops2.

1. Neither Social Security nor Medicare are bankrupt.

2. FDR was dead two decades before Medicare was enacted.

I literally cannot believe that someone could use horrific Nazi imagery to criticize our President for working to make sure that children have quality health insurance.

Funny can exist almost anywhere. But whoever photoshopped this from Schindler's List is beyond despicable.

And now for a guy who luxuriates around the house, unemployed for years, soaking up all sorts of direct and indirect public benefits paid for by actual taxpayers, doing nothing, to post it here is, well, wow . . . .

I guess this is what powerless desperation looks like.

"Because without big government regulations, your insurance company would have found a way to cancel you ass long ago"

The implication by forky is that insurance companies cancel all policies.

chilly - forky used fdr as the first person we should thank for ss * medicare; I replied that fdr is the first person we should blame.

SS has almost a $10t unfunded liabilities which means that the expected costs exceed the expected revenue by that amount. That means it is bankrupt. SS costs are currently exceeding the revenues, years ahead of what was anticipated

Manhattan Institute study is showing that only 8 states will see lower rates. My state of Nebraska will increase an average of 70%, which is the 8th highest in the land. The younger men and women in our state will see closer to triple digit rate hikes.

this is comparing the "bronze plan" which is supposed to be the cheapest! Oh my, nothing like it has been "sold to us by the government"

The Manhattan Institute, with Bill Kristol on its board and funding by the Koch Brothers, big oil, big pharma, and big tobacco, is an unabashed right-wing advocacy group.

Which is why rdwoodpecker uses its propaganda rather than actual, objective research by nonpartisan groups like the Kaiser Family Foundation.

forkushV is absolutely correct that insurance companies try their best to drop coverage for sick people.

Not "all policies", as hoops2 claims. Policies held by sick people. Just like forkushV wrote.

Another uninformed post by hoops2.

Well let's set aside for a moment that your acting like a total asshole and get to the point that ,as usual you haven't the faintest fuckin' clue what you're talking about and I'll address 'em by point.

- First off, if I hadn't had an top of the line, no cap private health ins. policy my ass would've been dead as fried chicken right now. If this computer wasn't a total POS and I was able to, I could take a pic of my wifes office in the basement that has roughly 15-16 mil in medical bills(that's a rough guesstimate, she quit guessing around several mil back) that have never been properly filed/thrown out whatever because it's too overwhelming for her still.

-On to the issue of SS and medicare. I've never touched a dime of SS to this day but I have medicare just recently and I'll get to that in a minute. As far as some of the poor souls who I did see up there in 4H(the ICU burn unit at wash. hospital center) during my final 8 months stay, there were some guys who were sent home way way, WAY too early and my guess is they didn't fare to well outside the hospital. You ever been in a burn unit forkie? See there's this thing about medicare, they don't like to pay out a whole bunch of money and hospitals don't like keeping medicare patients because they don't make much money on 'em. Sucks, doesn't it?

I'm gonna add one other thing on this point and this is just just a guess and I feel more qualified than you here. I would guess that as well as sending burn patients home way before they are ready they will forever or at least be disabled for a very long time. I know if I was discharged in july compared to nov. I would probably still be bedridden because I would've never learned to walk again. See medicare/medicaid has this yearly cap on physical therapy per event, no exceptions, None that I'm aware of anyway.

-Canceled? My accident occured Nov. 27 '09 and was discharged Nov. 3r '10. We never got any cancellation or any talk of it, in fact my wife was in almost constant contact with the rep and my wife had nothing but praise and said the woman was great and extremely helpful.

-I haven't the foggiest idea about your mandatory home purchase point is, but as usual you often have no point, like here. The govt doesn't make me buy rubber bands either, so wjhat does that matter in relation to the topic.

- I have recently been forced to get on medicare even tho my insurance is still perfectly good and let me tell you, IT'S NOTHING BUT ONE BIG PAIN IN THE F'n ASS! See after someone is on dialysis for 30 months, they automatically get shoved off ontp medicare, it's called end stage renal disease. Trust me I would've been much happier where I was.

I could probably add a few other things but I think that's enough of a lesson for you today.

Now, don't you feel a whole smarter(or stupider)? And I think it's painfully obvious to all that you feel like you just know-it-all and will spout sh!t off w/o having any idea of what you speak. It's too bad because every once in a great moon you say something intelligent, unfortunate it's all lost in your constant parade of bullshit.

JOHN