There you go conservatives: Obamacare is failing

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Originally posted by: forkushV
If someone pays you with a counterfeit bill, serves you horse meat labeled as top sirloin, or sells you an insurance policy based on misleading information, you have been defrauded. No matter how DonDiego parses it.

forkushV stated earlier: "[Humana was fined b]ecause Kentucky law says that it's illegal for insurance companies to defraud customers with misleading advertising."

According to forkushV's own source this is not so:
"The Kentucky Department of Insurance has fined Humana $65,430 because it offered policyholders an unapproved opportunity to amend their insurance, . . .

'The Department has other concerns with the letter and with Humana’s actions. We have met with Humana and continue our investigation. We will take additional administrative action, if appropriate,' [Sharon Clark] said.

Humana spokeswoman Kate Marx said Tuesday that [Humana] 'is working in concert with the state Department of Insurance. Humana does not plan to appeal the decision.' [on the fine] ”

DonDiego has neither the knowledge nor the authority to define "fraud" for the State of Kentucky. The State of Kentucky has, so far, not accused Humana of fraud. If forkushV has knowledge that might impact the State of Kentucky's decision, he would be advised to notify them by a certified letter instead of supposing they might see it on the LVA Fora.
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: jatki99
So does this mean forkie is publishing misleading information?

J
Don't be silly. Next DonDiego will be arguing over what the definition of "is" is.

If someone pays you with a counterfeit bill, serves you horse meat labeled as top sirloin, or sells you an insurance policy based on misleading information, you have been defrauded. No matter how DonDiego parses it.


Too bad you don't hold Obama to those standards.
Well, . . . this should clear everything up:

"If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health-care plan, you'll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what."
__President Barack Obama, - 15 June 2009, American Medical Association, Chicago


"What we said was, you could keep it, if it hadn't changed since the law was passed. But if the insurance company changes it, then what we're saying is they've got to change it to a higher standard."
__President Barack Obama - 4 November 2013, Organizing for Action, Washington D.C.

* * * EDITED to correct date to November instead of October & add group addressed * * *
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: jatki99
So does this mean forkie is publishing misleading information?

J
Don't be silly. Next DonDiego will be arguing over what the definition of "is" is.

If someone pays you with a counterfeit bill, serves you horse meat labeled as top sirloin, or sells you an insurance policy based on misleading information, you have been defrauded. No matter how DonDiego parses it.


Too bad you don't hold Obama to those standards.


Like what Obama should of said the next day, but it still counts type reasoning?

J

Yes, shame on you, forkush. You have taken the liberty of accusing the health insurance companies of fraud in the absence of any legal verdict to back that up. That is literally inaccurate, isn't it? How dare you!

You really need to be more semantically responsible with your language....like the posters on this board who throw out Orwellian hyperbole to describe anything they find objectionable. Next time just use one of these...


BELIEVE.


Or...

Or better yet the public school system. My father had to pay for public schools and then spent even more money so his six children could go to private schools.

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Originally posted by: jatki99
Or...




jatki, I bet you just love that the big old government made you contribute to Social Security and Medicare. And while the government doesn't make anyone buy their home, it sure as hell rewards those who pay interest on their mortgage. That kind of social engineering doesn't sound very "the market know best," does it?

And if the market had total control over health insurance, there would be a word for people like you. Dead.

Because without big government regulations, your insurance company would have found a way to cancel you ass long ago. And there are people, including I'm sure some on this board, who wouldn't have a problem with that because they believe in ideology more than their fellow Americans, and because of, you guessed it, "the market knows best."

So jatki, when you wake up tomorrow morning, thank a liberal. You can start with FDR.
"Because without big government regulations, your insurance company would have found a way to cancel you ass long ago"

Insurance companies don't make any money if they don't have any accounts, so your above statement is wrong

You continue to extoll SS & medicare and continue to ignore the that these 2 systems are bankrupt which we can start by blaming fdr

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