There you go conservatives: Obamacare is failing

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
TENTH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION
X. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The South Carolina Billl H3101 - “The South Carolina Freedom of Health Care Protection Act” - is set to be fast-tracked when the Senate comes back into session in January 2014.
The main segment of the bill says that “No agency of the State, officer or employee of this State, acting on behalf of the state, may engage in an activity that aids any agency in the enforcement of those provisions of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 and any subsequent federal act that amends the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 that exceed the authority of the United States Constitution.”

Supporters who introduced the law did so on the basis of the concept of state nullification which they claim is part of their 10th Amendment right to state sovereignty under the United States Constitution, and which they claim allows states to deem a federal law null and void inside their borders.

Ref: Ballot News

The Bill was passed by the South Carolina House on 13 May 2013. Given the present debacle that is Obamacare, the delay in introducing it for Senate consideration likely has increased the chance of passage.


"February 9, 1776
Col. Gadsden presented to the [Provincial] Congress [of South Carolina] an elegant standard, such as is to be used by the Commander in Chief of the American Navy, being a yellow field, with a lively representation of a rattlesnake in the middle in the attitude of going to strike and these words underneath, 'Don't tread on me.'
Ordered, that the said standard be carefully preserved and suspended in the Congress room."
I guess this means the website must be working better.
"I guess this means the website must be working better"

A true success story

5.6m cancelled, 300,000 applied but not verified or paid yet

Eisenhower to Roosevelt

Good news. We got some of the troops ashore, but most of the ships sank
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Originally posted by: hoops2
"I guess this means the website must be working better"

A true success story

5.6m cancelled, 300,000 applied but not verified or paid yet

Eisenhower to Roosevelt

Good news. We got some of the troops ashore, but most of the ships sank
From Consumer Reports (Soon to be banned in South Carolina!):

"Add it all up, and nationwide the marketplaces have supplied health coverage for 1.2 million Americans, about a quarter of the hoped-for total of 5 million new enrollees by the time open enrollment ends on March 31, 2014."


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It is supposed to be 7m by March 31st and 2m by December. As of now nobody is signed up as nobody has paid yet.

The bulk of the enrollees is in Medicaid, which is a 100% govt subsidy, which adds to the deficit.

I find it interesting that CR was at first against the plan and suddenly became a cheerleader

I'd be interested to see ANYTHING other CR's glowing reports from you, because I swear, I can't get on my computer w/o seeing some setback or problem concerning enrollees. Have any of them been verified paid up and certified to be insured come Jan 1? If any have been, how many? That's the acid test, not the constant flow of CR articles proclaiming how great it is.

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Something really smells about that.
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I find it interesting that CR was at first against the plan and suddenly became a cheerleader


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Originally posted by: hoops2
...I find it interesting that CR was at first against the plan and suddenly became a cheerleader
Oh hoops, you are such a misrepresenter.




Well, . . . well, . . . welly, . . . well, well.

That there Health and Human Services babe Sebelius is up to her old tricks tonight, . . . extendin' deadlines and askin' them there insurance folks who cancelled them crappy plans because they was too crappy for Obamacare to, . . . [wait for it,] . . . reinstate the approved doctors who were in the crappy plans but had been removed in the brand new improved Obamacare plans back into the brand new improved Obamacare plans so people can have access to their doctors, . . . but only for a month or so and only fer "acute care"; then they can remove them from the new improved Obamacare plans, . . . again, so's they don't be like them there crappy plans again. Oh and she's askin' that drugs approved in the old crappy plans be reinstated into the new improved Obamacare plans too fer a month.

Jumpin' Jehosophat, how're they gonna do that? Don't the insurance companies have some sorta contract with the approved doctors and hospitals and such? And if'n them insurance folks dropped doctors and hospitals and drugs to save money so's they could make some profits, . . . why should they put 'em back in anyways? It's not like President Obama has a fleet of drones that can take out some insurance company CEO a'speedin' round the Washington beltway anytime he wants, . . . or maybe he do.

Anyway, . . . here's some excerpts from Time :

"The Department of Health and Human Services had already extended the deadline to sign up for January coverage from Dec. 15 to Dec. 23. But in a fact sheet distributed to reporters Thursday, the department said it may extend that deadline further 'should exceptional circumstances pose barriers to consumers enrolling on or before December 23.' Insurers typically begin coverage the first day of the month after a consumer signs up for a plan. Federal officials said Thursday that those who 'experience an issue' signing up for coverage who miss the Dec. 23 deadline will not have to wait until Feb. 1 for a plan to begin, but qualify for 'a special enrollment period' allowing coverage to start 'as soon as possible.' ”

"In a move sure to rankle insurance companies, HHS said it is requiring insurers to cover consumers beginning Jan. 1 if they pay for their first month’s premiums by Dec. 31. The department also said it is 'encouraging' insurers to offer retroactive coverage to consumers who sign up even later. 'For example, if a person signs up and pays on January 5, they can have coverage with a start date of January 1,' HHS said in its fact sheet about the new deadlines. HHS is also urging insurers to cover those on Jan. 1 who have paid what Sebelius described as a 'down payment' on that month’s coverage."

"In addition to problems enrolling in coverage through HealthCare.gov, which is managing signups for 36 states, consumer advocates have complained that provider network and covered drug lists posted online through ACA exchanges have been ever changing and inaccurate. Some insurers have altered the list of doctors and hospitals included in their networks after plans went on sale Oct. 1. This means consumers who purchased plans believing their doctors and medications would be included may find out their plans do not cover these in January. HHS has asked insurers to treat out-of-network providers as in-network if the providers were listed as in-network when a person signed up for a plan. The department also asked insurers to cover prescription drugs in January if they were included in a previous plan but excluded from 2014 plans and urged insurers to treat out-of-network providers as in-network in January for patients in the midst of acute care."

It looks to poor old DonDiego like they's jes' makin' stuff up as they go now. What is gonna happen to folks who are, or maybe aren't, insured on January 1st, . . . and folks who might, or might not, have access to pharmaceuticals they bin a'usin, . . . an might wanna see their doctor, if'n he is their doctor, which he might or might not be?

It's a puzzlement.

Or, . . . maybe, . . . jes' a glitch.





This here ACA get's to be a bigger joke everyday!

Maybe time Obama and his minions throw their hands in the air and say the obvious "we don't know what the fu*ck we are doing"
BUT,BUT, consumer reports says it's great! Wait a minute, aren't they a "consumer advocate?"

"In addition to problems enrolling in coverage through HealthCare.gov, which is managing signups for 36 states, consumer advocates have complained that provider network and covered drug lists ..."
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