Things That Make One Go "Hmm"


Just a note, . . .

DonDiego realizes he has no control over other folks' behavior on this Forum, . . . but for the record this thread was intended to provoke a reasonable conversation concerning a newspaper which published names and addresses of local licensed gun owners, . . . and by process of subtraction, addresses of homes without licensed gun owners.

Those identified included retired and active police officers, against whom convicted and free-roaming criminals may have a grudge. The map also included currently-employed prison guards, whose names and addresses are now being shared freely among those whom they guard.
DonDiego thought this unfortunate and potentially dangerous.

Subsequently, the owners, editors, and employees of the subject newspaper hired "gun-hands", to use an Old West term, to protect themselves and their homesteads.
DonDiego thought this demonstrated hypocrisy.

A little meaningful conversation ensued. DonDiego is happy to enlighten even a few.

He now sees the thread transmogrifying into a conversation on pending gun control; he expects such a thread will soon become a series of escalating name-calling and unpleasantness.
DonDiego requests those who wish to discuss gun-control and the politics attached thereto to initiate a new thread. He expects such a thread to beget even less "meaningful conversation". And to be short-lived.
The conversation turning to gun control was the natural progression of such a topic tho.

J
Not a single proposal would have prevented Newtown
Newtown summary
disturbed young man takes assault weapon from his mom's cabinet and shoots dozens of kids in school

Presidents proposals:
- research to understand all the variables that cause disturbed kids to kill people
- more gun reponsibility laws - like making parents of disturbed children more accoutable for the guns in the house and the access their disturbed kids have to them
- limits on clip sizes so people who want to kill lots of people in a short amount of time have a more difficult time doing so

Hoops Summary
Not a single proposal would have prevented Newtown

pjstroh Says
Things that make one go "Hmmm"


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Originally posted by: hoops2
Not a single proposal would have prevented Newtown

"Nothing the President is proposing would have stopped the massacre at Sandy Hook." - Senator Marco Rubio
"Not a single proposal would have prevented Newtown" - hoops

What a coincidence - Rubio is blatantly repeating hoops words! Want to know how that happened?

The President's individual proposals are overwhelmingly popular; for example, 9 out of 10 gun owners think there should be background checks. So now the word has gone out to the Republican leadership NOT to criticize any of the individual proposals, but to just slam the whole thing as presidential overreach. And then the rubes and the marks and the ditto heads just repeat what they have been told on Fox.

That's why a couple people on this board don't want to talk about it.
forky - my original statement is correct - not a single proposal would have stopped Newtown, but obama is trumpeting them as if they will. after the next shooting & sadly there will be, he will want more rules.

Ignored in his orders are restrictions on movies (his favorite donor group) and holding the psychiatric profession to allowing these monsters to roam around.
So what meds was the Newtown shooter taking?

We still don't know - but we know all the details of the weapons he used.

Things that make one go Hmmmm
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Originally posted by: hoops2
Ignored in his orders are restrictions on movies...

  • Limiting fundamental constitutional right to bear arms? Bad!

  • Limiting fundamental constitutional right to free speech? Good!
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    Originally posted by: esteskefauver
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    Originally posted by: Tutontow
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    Originally posted by: pjstroh
    OMG...it happened! Did you see the big list of oppressive executive orders the president issued today?
    What happened to our democracy? Check it out:
    Nazi Obama Power Grab coming for our guns

    He actually wants to appoint a director to his firearms bureau like every president before him? And emergency planning for events like the ones in Colorado/Conn? My God, he might as well just wipe his ass with the Constituion. Its absolutely insane, I tell you, and a flagrant abuse of my 2nd Ammendment rights.

    I'd rant about it some more but in the course of my alarmed and panicky state I seem to have had a little bit of an accident and now need to be changed. Good luck to all. I'll meet up with you at the bunker in Idaho Falls.


    PJ I tell you it is the beginning of the end. When the over 200 million guns privately owned in the US are confiscated it is just a matter of time before we are all saluting Hitler I tell ya, Hitler and Stalin.

    As stated before I am a gun owner and I hate to see my rights reduced in any way shape or form but I must say I just can't see the point of an AR 15 or a 30 shot clip.

    The real chuckler is when people tell me what is going to prevent the government from taking over when the citizens don't have any guns. Like that compound in Idaho is really going to hold up to carpet bombs. Go figure.


    Carpet bombing US citizens? Seriously!?! The fact that the thought even popped into your head speaks volumes.


    I'm afraid you might have misunderstood my point. I am constantly getting emails from friends, and yes they are friends of mine, that hate Obama. They know I support him, although I don"t always agree with him. Anyway several of these emails have references to Hitler, China etc and they show the slaughter of innocent people with the caption such as "Gun control is great as long as you are the one controlling the gun." Then they go on to say what is to prevent this from happening here when the government takes are guns. My point is our guns will not do any good against the government if, God forbid it ever comes to that. Me personally I don't think it will ever come to that. I also don't think any form of gun control will prevent another Columbine, Newton, etc.

    What I do think will prevent it is to have strong controls on who get in and out of our schools, something like an approved list and stop them at the parking lot, not at the front doors.

    Having said that I don't have any heartburn with background checks, limiting the size and types of weapons we can purchase etc.

    Anyway I think you misunderstood my point I was trying to be sarcastic to all of the sky is falling, conspiracy type people.



    Checked at the parking lot? really? No disrespect tutonow, but that would have zero effect. The kid at Newton busted through a window, you think a checkpoint would stop him?
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