Why do certain groups of young men get shot by the police?

I don't think it has anything to do with race.....I think it's just the police never liking to be challenged, and they don't care what color you are. You don't cooperate and do what they tell you and you're going to have problems. I just think there are too many cases where a person that is supposedly threatening them can be taken down by a means other than being shot! There was a case many years ago when a women was late on her utility bill and was threatening the electric company guy who was going to shut off her power with a knife. Naturally police responded and wound up shooting her to death because she wouldn't put down her knife! There were at least 10 officers there that could have overpowered her with no problem. But they chose to shoot her instead. Nowadays, police have tasers as a defense against people that don't want to comply with their wishes. We've all seen how tasers render a person helpless and defenseless.

We just had a situation here in SD where a man in Mission Bay was waving around a pistol threatening to kill himself. Actually, the first call to 911 was the man claiming he was going to commit suicide. They wound up shooting him in the stomach and he wound up alive, but they could have tased him and got the same result. He was white.
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Originally posted by: surf87
Prior to writing my post above I hadn't been following this much and I was just making up scenarios. The one about taking away the cop's gun actually seems to be what happened. You'd have to be a fool to believe the black guy innocently had his "hands in the air." Plain foolish.


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What do police say happened?

According to St. Louis County’s police chief: Brown was walking with a friend in the middle of the street when Ferguson police Officer Darren Wilson tried to exit his vehicle. Brown pushed the officer back into the police car, then entered the car, and a struggle ensued over Wilson's weapon. A shot was fired inside the car. Wilson and Brown then exited the vehicle, and the fatal shooting occurred.
Oh that's version 3.0 of the police version.

The previous version (2.0) was that it was strictly a jaywalking bust. And you know what they say about folks who keep changing their story.

The police also ordered people to stop videoing them (illegal), they dismantled some professional video equipment, they arrested journalists doing their job, they refused to give badge numbers or names when they were released uncharged, and they allowed the officer to leave the scene without proper forensic examination of the officer or his car (part of the crime scene). And then police withheld the police report and the autopsy.

Then they played Army Ranger dress-up to confront protesters.

And several eye-witnesses contradict the police stories 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0. But those witnesses aren't like, you know, regular people, are they surf? And I bet some of them are uppity.
I fully disagree. The reason that the black thugs disrespected the police is because they hate white people. The reason that the people rioted and trashed folk's businesses is because they hate all who aren't black. Not all blacks are racist, but this issue is all about racism.


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Originally posted by: BAGIANT
I don't think it has anything to do with race.....I think it's just the police never liking to be challenged, and they don't care what color you are. You don't cooperate and do what they tell you and you're going to have problems. I just think there are too many cases where a person that is supposedly threatening them can be taken down by a means other than being shot! There was a case many years ago when a women was late on her utility bill and was threatening the electric company guy who was going to shut off her power with a knife. Naturally police responded and wound up shooting her to death because she wouldn't put down her knife! There were at least 10 officers there that could have overpowered her with no problem. But they chose to shoot her instead. Nowadays, police have tasers as a defense against people that don't want to comply with their wishes. We've all seen how tasers render a person helpless and defenseless.

We just had a situation here in SD where a man in Mission Bay was waving around a pistol threatening to kill himself. Actually, the first call to 911 was the man claiming he was going to commit suicide. They wound up shooting him in the stomach and he wound up alive, but they could have tased him and got the same result. He was white.


Until last weekend, my son and three friends lived in a tough all black Indianapolis neighborhood. If you are from New York, you might believe that such a place can't exist within Indiana, but that's not the case. Two neighbors have been shot and killed within the past two months within 400 yards of my son's house. During the same period, a drive-by shooting two blocks to the north happened with 22 rounds fired into a house.

A couple of months back my boy his roommates invited a young gal (that's Indy talk for a lady) over for a beer and she honestly told them (during an attempt to compliment) that "Most of the people here hate white people, but I don't". That's the truth in such place. My son moved out after 12 months ago last week, and I'm happy. He was only held once held with a gun at his head while living there, yet had the gun at his head for several minutes.

Those rioting folks in St. Louis hate white folks.












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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Until last weekend, my son and three friends lived in a tough all black Indianapolis neighborhood. If you are from New York, you might believe that such a place can't exist within Indiana, but that's not the case. Two neighbors have been shot and killed within the past two months within 400 yards of my son's house. During the same period, a drive-by shooting two blocks to the north happened with 22 rounds fired into a house.

A couple of months back my boy his roommates invited a young gal (that's Indy talk for a lady) over for a beer and she honestly told them (during an attempt to compliment) that "Most of the people here hate white people, but I don't". That's the truth in such place. My son moved out after 12 months ago last week, and I'm happy. He was held several months back with a gun at his head while living there.

Those rioting folks in St. Louis hate white folks.


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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: surf87
Prior to writing my post above I hadn't been following this much and I was just making up scenarios. The one about taking away the cop's gun actually seems to be what happened. You'd have to be a fool to believe the black guy innocently had his "hands in the air." Plain foolish.


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What do police say happened?

According to St. Louis County’s police chief: Brown was walking with a friend in the middle of the street when Ferguson police Officer Darren Wilson tried to exit his vehicle. Brown pushed the officer back into the police car, then entered the car, and a struggle ensued over Wilson's weapon. A shot was fired inside the car. Wilson and Brown then exited the vehicle, and the fatal shooting occurred.
Oh that's version 3.0 of the police version.

The previous version (2.0) was that it was strictly a jaywalking bust. And you know what they say about folks who keep changing their story.

The police also ordered people to stop videoing them (illegal), they dismantled some professional video equipment, they arrested journalists doing their job, they refused to give badge numbers or names when they were released uncharged, and they allowed the officer to leave the scene without proper forensic examination of the officer or his car (part of the crime scene). And then police withheld the police report and the autopsy.

Then they played Army Ranger dress-up to confront protesters.

And several eye-witnesses contradict the police stories 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0. But those witnesses aren't like, you know, regular people, are they surf? And I bet some of them are uppity.



Yea, can't seem to get a complete and accurate story of what happened. I agree, if Brown had his hands in the air saying I give up, that would be murder. I find it hard to beleive a a cop would be stupid enough to do that, full well knowing that he could be being recorded from a hundred different phones( I really wonder why there hasn't been any video of the shooting).

I will say one thing I know for sure, cops do not like to be touched, ESPECIALLY THIER WEAPONS, that's certain jail time and ,as crhis rock would say, a definite ticket for an ass beating. I met a guy in jail who was in there for fighting with a cop and grabbed his gun, I think he ended up with a 25 to something or other just because he grabbed his gun during a scuffle. It's a strict no-no.

Anyway, hopefully all the facts come to light and if the cop shot him while his hands were in the air, fry 'em. If it turns he was going for the gun during a scuffle, he asked for it.
I've got new concept that can solve this whole race relations problem. I call it: Miscegenistic Polyamory.....or Interracial Group Marriages. Men who participate can have up to 4 wives, but each has to be a different race than him. Women can have up to 4 husbands and of course each of the husbands have to be a different race than her. Once this catches on......In a few generations, there will be no races except NASCAR and Formula One and the Kentucky Derby and the those kinds of races.

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
Men who participate can have up to 4 wives . . .

Only 4 ??

Bummer.



A limit of four wives is not going to fly in Colorado City.
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Originally posted by: clcjim
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
Men who participate can have up to 4 wives . . .

Only 4 ??

Bummer.


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Originally posted by: friedmush
A limit of four wives is not going to fly in Colorado City.


Did I mention you can get bonus wives if they're a different religion?

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