Why do certain groups of young men get shot by the police?

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Originally posted by: hoops2
"Then they played Army Ranger dress-up to confront protesters"

What does forfy suggest is the proper evening attire for police during a riot?


Forky you haven't answered the question
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: forkushV
And if your life WASN'T being threatened (nor anyone else's life) - it's murder. Can we agree on that?
Umm, . . . . no.

"A police officer may not seize an unarmed, nondangerous suspect by shooting him dead . . . however . . . Where the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others, it is not constitutionally unreasonable to prevent escape by using deadly force."

—Justice Byron White, Tennessee v. Garner
Umm, . . . . yes. (Bold captions for the deliberately obtuse.)


Who's being obtuse now??

If a person larger than yourself is aggressively charging toward you it is safe to assume fear of physical harm. Plenty of precedence for that.
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: forkushV
And if your life WASN'T being threatened (nor anyone else's life) - it's murder. Can we agree on that?
Umm, . . . . no.

"A police officer may not seize an unarmed, nondangerous suspect by shooting him dead . . . however . . . Where the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others, it is not constitutionally unreasonable to prevent escape by using deadly force."

—Justice Byron White, Tennessee v. Garner
Umm, . . . . yes. (Bold captions for the deliberately obtuse.)
Well, Justice White didn't employ the term "murder" or even "life being threatened"; what he did write was "serious physical harm".

But, . . . that quibble aside, {although he was on the Supreme Court and he likely wouldn't judge it a "quibble"}, . . . indeed, the bold type is the issue.

One aspect not addressed in this thread is the alleged struggle in the police car between Mr. Brown and Officer Wilson. Some say over the officer's gun. Some say the gun discharged during the struggle. Some say that might be where Mr. Brown's hand was shot. Today at least one news report states that Officer Wilson is alleged to have had the orbital socket around his eye broken in the struggle.

The other issue is the question of whether Mr. Brown, . . . a 6'4'' 292 pound man, . . . "charged" at Officer Wilson, as some eyewitness accounts are reported to suggest, or whether Mr. Brown was surrendering with his hands up in the air as his accomplice in the robbery of the convenience store has alleged.

DonDiego doesn't know the truth of these matters. Unless forkushV does know the truth of the matter DonDiego suggests it is pr'bly wise to withhold judgement on the issue of Murder vs Justifiable Shooting.

In fact, just such loose talk could cause a riot. DonDiego opposes riots.
Forky cannot get past "his hands were up in the air." But wait a minute, his hands were up in the air!

Are you F**king kidding me!? The cops shoot and kill another black man near Ferguson. Do these guys not carry tasers and pepper spray there, are they that stupid to use lethal force while sitting on a powder keg right now? WOW.

St. Louis Cops Shoot and Kill Man Near Ferguson, Crowd Gathers

"wo St. Louis city police officers shot and killed a black man who came within several feet of them brandishing a knife on Tuesday a few miles from the turbulent suburb of Ferguson, authorities said.

A crowd of at least 100 people quickly gathered at the scene. Some people chanted, “Hands up! Don’t shoot!” — the refrain from a week of protests over the police killing of Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager, three miles away.

The man in the St. Louis shooting, 23, had taken energy drinks and a package of pastries from a nearby convenience store, Police Chief Sam Dotson told reporters. He said that the man was “acting erratically, walking back and forth, up and down the street.”

The chief said that the officers repeatedly ordered the man to drop the knife and drew their weapons after he did not drop it. The chief said the man told the police: “Shoot me now. Kill me now.”

He said the two officers fired after the man moved toward one of them and came within 3 to 4 feet.

“One of the witnesses described it as a suicide by cop,” Dotson said. "


https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/st-louis-cops-shoot-kill-man-near-ferguson-crowd-gathers-n184216
Bravo! for the police. We don't want or need these punks threatening anybody. This one won't be doing it again.

As for that teenage thug Michael Brown, I'm sick of watching all the neighbors lying about what a "sweet innocent young man" he was. Did you see this "young man" shove around the store clerk after robbing it? What a good little boy..... In my view, the cop who eliminated this thug from society did the country a great big favor. What possible contributions could he make anywhere other than show a prison population how to eat like a pig?

Now the racist Holder thinks he can help all the blacks who lied into the cameras about the incident. Start with that moron who helped rob the store, then laughably claimed his fatass friend was in "the universal surrender position" when the cop blasted away. ROTFLMFAO!
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: rdwoodpecker
From the video tape of Michael Brown on his strong armed robbery showed an aggressive indivdual stealing something that was not his! Not only did he shove the employee but also walked over to him and I can bet he verbally threatened him as well! So what makes you think he had any respect for the law officer!!!!!! WTF

SO are you surprised that he may have been uncooperative...
No I'm surprised he was shot six times, with some of those shots from a pretty good distance away, after being busted for jaywalking.

On second thought I'm not surprised - he was black in Ferguson. Even though Ferguson blacks were 35% LESS likely to be found with contraband than whites, they were 39% MORE likely to be stopped and searched. Although I think that cops who illegally racially profile should be jailed, I'll settle for them being fired. That would probably include a large proportion of the Ferguson PD.


Gee Forkie I wonder why ALL of the shots were on the victims RIGHT side? Seems to me the cop was not trying to kill him. According to the guy who did the second autopsy, only the shot to the top of the head was fatal, the rest were not.

Forkie will settle for the officer being fired.
yes..."knob" describes it perfectly.
The officer will not ever be convicted of anything. You have a model cop telling the truth about the shooting, then black street punks lying about it. Guess who will be believed. Let the punks burn their own neighborhoods like they usually do. Obama will reimburse them.
I really don't get why there isn't any other video of this. Everybody has a phone(at least entitled to one) and there isn't one? Are people afraid to come forward or something, practically everything is caught on video nowadays, hell look at youtube.
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