About Getting IDs - It isn't easy like conservatives claim.

Kevin, first, what rights have been taken away?  Rights include responsibilities, no getting around that.  With the right to vote comes the responsibility for proving your identity and residency.   IN EVERY STATE.  Processes are not all exactly the same but similar.   True, not easy, but easy isn't necessarily part of most rights.

I've also "examined issues" though maybe not as "in depth" as yourself.  Go to https://www.voteriders.org.  It shows the 'requirements' of each state for voting, getting DLs, getting IDs, lists of documents acceptable in each state.  It also provides links to VoteRiders (every state) who will help your homeless person to acquire what he needs to vote, including obtaining the documents, paying for the documents, transportation to get the documents, and much more.  Non-partisan 501c nonprofit organization under the Fed., they work like caseworkers once a person who needs help is known to them.  Unless your homeless guy will not leave the confines of his shack or bridge or woodlands, there is free and available help so he can vote.  And perhaps get some benefits he doesn't know he is eligible for but needs ID to prove who he is in order to apply for them and receive him.  Even court documents related to fines and imprisonment etc. can serve as documents to get other important documents to improve his situation, if he wants it.

People accomplish things when they make the effort. 

And I have no idea what RepubliQ is nor their fantasy or what it takes to "feed" this fantasy.   Stop calling me those names, please.  You don't know me.

Candy

Actually, human rights are not conditional, and the only condition for citizenship rights is that you are a citizen.

Proving your identity and residency is a two-step process: first you register to vote, then you vote, signing your ballot. That's the way it's been done pretty much since the early days of the Republic.

I never said it was impossible for homeless or other disadvantaged people to vote. I said it is more difficult. AND...imposing unnecessary ID requirements increases that difficulty. Again, I'll ask you, since you didn't answer before...WHY impose those requirements? And please don't say "massive voter fraud that enabled Biden to steal the election from its rightful winner."

This is SO reminiscent of requirements, back in the Klan days, that people should take a "literacy test" before being able to vote. A Southern cracker, when asked about the legitimacy of such a restriction, might have said, "Well, ah can read, what's stoppin' them lazy Black folks from larnin'?" Just like the bleating I'm seeing that it's oh so easy to get an ID.

"It's easy for me, so how can it be hard for anyone else?" is in general one of the most myopic, arrogant, and downright stupid things anyone can say. Not that that's stopping all the RepubliQ, in Gawgiah and elsewhere, from saying it.

Kevin is correct. Getting a drivers license is hard and getting a voter ID is easy

Thanks.

(The following and all subsequent responses to Boilerman will be written in Boilerspeak, a drastically simplified version of English that will hopefully mitigate his appallingly poor comprehension skills.)

Me no say either one hard or easy. Me say they different. You not read good. You not smart.

Kevin, which specific portion of the Georgia voter law makes it so difficult for black people to vote.

1.  Is it that absentee voters can't vote until 28 days before the election?

2.  Is it that absentee voters can't request a ballot until 78 days prior to the election?

3.  Is it that they must prove theif identity before voting?

4.  Please add to this list as you see fit.

I'm guessing it's number #3, as you have argued that requiring proof of one's identity when voting is bat shit crazy.  On the other hand, people like me who wish to limit voter fraud believe that voter identification is needed.  We believe that voting without proving one's identify opens the door for very easy cheating.

We've confirmed that anyone can get an ID to vote with a several hours of simple effort.  Kevin has argued that any requirement of such effort limits voting, and I agree.  It eliminates illegals from voting.  It eliminates people from voting more than once.  It eliminates exceptionally lazy people from voting.

While Kevin has made it clear that the possiblility of exceptionally lazy people not being able to vote is voter supression, while I argue the assuring only legal citizens vote just once is most important.

Are there more bat shit crazy stuff in the law that I omitted that make it racist?  You know, like the crazy requirement of having to prove one's identity?

Boiler, you not smart. Say silly things.

Kevin, you suffer the racism of low expectations, that Black Americans (and homeless?) are less capable of acquiring the kinds of identification that white Americans (and most Black Americans) routinely (with some effort as with most things in life) aquire and routinely present for all kinds of activities (and benefits), not just voting. 

You and Joe Biden.  Shame on him for that Jim Crow statement.  Worse than anything Trump ever said publicly.   Dementia?  Living in his own racist past?

Did you know there is all kinds of assistance for folks who don't know where or how or have the money to get an ID?  DL or other DL?  Georgia has it too.  Maybe some don't know this, or are shy about asking for help, but it is out there.

Somebody said "We must do what we think we cannot do."

Candy

Candy, I forgive your lack of insight and understanding. It's at least partially a product of where you grew up.

Biden wasn't referring to only ID restrictions---which, despite all the blather in this thread, aren't even the most significant or evil parts of the RepubliQ push to stop Blacks from voting. The Georgia legislature's granting itself the power to decide who wins elections is perhaps the most egregious.

If you really think that what Biden said is worse than anything Trump said...well, you have my pity. You're obviously losing it. For one thing, what Biden said is true. But apparently you love Trump and hate Biden? OK. Trump has a mystical hold on his cult followers. You got sucked in. Too bad.

And Candy...don't put words in my mouth. I never said that Blacks were less capable. I said that SOME people will experience problems getting ID, and that those problems are primarily experienced by people of color. Thus, voting restrictions disproportionately affect minorities. That's their intention and purpose!

But you know what? You're perfectly free to indulge in the White-cracker nonsense that absolutely none of these voter suppression laws (in GA and elsewhere) are targeted at minorities. It's not about the Republicans wanting to win more elections. No siree Bob. It's about "election integrity." LOfuckingL.

Do you really believe that tommyrot that Fox News and the RepubliQ are feeding you? If so, I'm disappointed. You seemed to be one of the more reasonable conservatives here. But it appears that you've recently chugged the Kool-Aid.

The Georgia legislature can't declare winners in an election. 

Another Kevin lie

Yes, they can, Tommie-poo. They can declare any election results invalid and force an entirely new election, repeating the move if necessary, until they get the results they want.

Since their master, Trumpie-poo, declared that any election won by a Democrat would be "stolen," and Georgia's RepubliQs do whatever he says, it's a certainty that if voter suppression doesn't work, they'll just nullify election results.

What makes you a genuinely dumb sicko is that you applaud this.