2 people killed in Kenosha last night as many businesses are destroyed by fire & looting. Last week more than 100 people were shot in both Chicago & NY. In NYC a mother of 3 was killed as she was running away. In Coney Island a man was shot 20 times.
None of these riots, shootings & murders was by a cop, but not a word from pj
The fact you dont hold police to a higher standard than looters and rioters is disturbing but not unique in your circles.
The party of Trump and the alt-right rationalize murders committed by paid public servants by comparing them to greater numbers of murders committed by criminals.
And I guess that helps people like Tom sleep better at night and avoid talking about a topic that makes him really uncomfortable.
In this matter, seems he would not take police orders when given. Why is that, I have no idea. He had 3 children in the car with him, why put them in danger.
It looks pretty bad on video for the police but why is he so intent in going around to the drivers door and getting back into his car? Knife or gun available?
Waiting for all the facts but it is another sad tragedy.
P j's policies are getting lots of people killed. He hates policy which is tough and saves lives.
Interesting that Minneapolis didn't make the "Most Crime-Ridden" list. No time line was given for that rating.
Minneapolis did make the "Cities Hit by Riots in the Last Three Months."
So, what does that say about crime in Minneapolis prior to the George Floyd incident? Effective police departmenet perhaps? Just sayin'.
My city was listed in the "Most Crime-Ridden." But not in "Cities Hit by Riots." We've had no riots in my memory. Protests (BLM) but nothing close to riots.
I suggest the "Most Crime-Ridden" list break it down into more detail. What types of crimes? Homicides, robberies, shop-lifting, breaking and entering, public intoxication, disturbing the peace, DUI, assault, gang activity (our gang activity is almost non-existant). How was this data gathered? The (Democratic) Mayor has been in office less than 1 year.
I have never condoned criminal behavior. However pj does so in a regular basis. Has he ever spoke out about portland/seattle/chicago?
Hundreds are shot every week, but not a word. One police incident & he wakes up.
Why we "wake up" to a police incident?
Well maybe because generally we don't expect that police will "shoot" people who supposedly aren't threatening themselves or others. It gets our attention.
We have become accustomed to reading of gun fights in bars and neighborhoods, perps shooting perps over drug deals, domestic disputes in the home ending in gun violence, that sort of thing. Those make the little "Police Beat" feature of our newspaper, second section, maybe page 7, toward the bottom of the page. Who wants to go to a domestic dispute call, woman screaming, drunk husband waving a gun?
We are pretty sure that a chase (car or physical) will ensue if a citizen reports something. Whether in the end whether it constituted a shooting by the officer is the unknown until after it has occurred. If the cop is white and the suspect is non-white it makes national news ad nauseum and the rhetoric is almost always structured by the anchorman in such a way as to suggest, without saying, that the cop was motivated to shoot because of the suspect's race. BS.
Ubiquitous cell phone cameras come out and we see the replay from various angles. With the exception of the close up shots of George Floyd being restrained and heard his cries we usually don't see as much on the TV news. And as far as I know that situation's final findings have still not been made public.
To clarify, I feel sick when I see one of those stories on TV. Usually my first thought is "why did the cop have to shoot?" This is going to add fuel to the raging fire. Was it that serious? Could there have been a de-escalation strategy? But them, I don't know. I can't know, even if "the suspect didn't have a weapon, only holding his cell phone", etc. I know it will ruin somebody's life, the injured/dead, their "loved ones", the city, and especially the cop's and his family's. It has to be fact that no policeman wakes up every day and thinks "I'm going to go out and commit a career ending act against another human, particularly one of another race."
But that's why we "wake up" to those incidents. JMHO.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
P j's policies are getting lots of people killed. He hates policy which is tough and saves lives.
My policies? You mean the Constituion of the UNited States?
Kenosha police implemented Boilerman's fascist policy of killing civilians. And 2 people were killed in the wake of it within 48 hours by a "police sympathizer".
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/26/us/kenosha-wisconsin-wednesday-shooting/index.html
It should be noted the police detained, charged and arrested that criminal without shooting him in the back 7 times. Sympathizing with police...and being white has its advantages.
I wonder what Tom thinks about the blue lives matter thug that killed someone last night shortly after the police visited with him, gave him a water bottle, and thanked him for his support. After this guy committed the murder, he tried to surrender to the police, but they refused to arrest him.
As to Don's list, a lot of those cities are in red states where the tax base of the metro areas are used as cash cows to support new schools, better roads and other public improvements in the rural communities where white Republicans live despite those communities not having a large enough tax base to be economically viable.
Then you also have the problem of firearms being supplied to these areas from red states. For example, most of the guns used for crimes in Chicago are obtained in Indiana where they are easy to buy and then brought back across the state line.
Originally posted by: tom
I have never condoned criminal behavior. However pj does so in a regular basis. Has he ever spoke out about portland/seattle/chicago?
Hundreds are shot every week, but not a word. One police incident & he wakes up.
No you dont condone - you just change the topic whenever the murdering thug is a white cop who kills an unarmed black man. THis thread is one of many examples.
Oh, and uh - One police incident? Thats as far back as Tom's memory can go. thats on purpose. Makes it easy to ignore the systemic racist incidents of police that seem to pop up every month.
Again - I hold taxpayer funded police who take an oath to srerve and protect to a higher standard the local gang leader. Tom struggles with this concept. And thats also on purpose.
(For the record, I also hold the police to a higher standard that the murdering thug "police sympathizer" that killed the two people in the aftermath of the Kenosha incident. But bad news, Tom. He's a white fascist too - so you'll have to change the topic from that conversation too.)
