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Boilerman

Aug 30, 2020
12:51pm

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

I know - I hold cops to a higher standard than Charles Manson. You dont.

And I'm aware of the systemic racism that goes beyond homicides in the police departments as already addressed...and you've given those statisitcs your blessing.

I cant help you in either case. So lets just agree to disagree. I'm not at all interested in educating the Tucker Carlson disicples. I'm happy to beat them at the polls and make them irrelevant.

So more white people are killed per each police interaction than blacks, yet blacks are being targeted? That is illogical. Blacks should get more attention from cops because they are a high risk group and commit more crime, yet the are being killed at a lower rate. White people are those who should be bitching.

Once again, statistically zero blacks are murdered by cops and 7500 blacks are muredered by mostly other blacks, yet PJ doesn't say a peep. Is your interest in slowing wrongful black deaths, or being political. We both know the answer.

O2bnVegas

Aug 30, 2020
1:32pm

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Surely there is a grammatical difference between "murdered" and "killed" in regard to deaths involving police intervention. I'm no English major, but to me "murdered" refers to intent, premeditation.

I doubt any of the involved cops intended that George Floyd would die as a result of their handling. I'd guess there was bravado that got far out of hand. Not murder, though.

Martin Shedlin

Aug 31, 2020
12:58am

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Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Surely there is a grammatical difference between "murdered" and "killed" in regard to deaths involving police intervention. I'm no English major, but to me "murdered" refers to intent, premeditation.

I doubt any of the involved cops intended that George Floyd would die as a result of their handling. I'd guess there was bravado that got far out of hand. Not murder, though.

"I'm no English major" You can say that again!!

Grammar has nothing to do with the difference between the words "murder" and "killing." I won't bother to go into something so obvious.

FYI, murder can occur in certain cases even in the absence of premeditation if the act that caused the death demonstrated extreme and unusual reckless indifference or depraved indfference to human life.

Because everyone knows breathing is essential to staying alive, a murder charge could be made when someone obstructs another person's airway for a long enough period of time for that person to die of asphyxiation, regardless of motive. I'm not saying that happened in the Floyd case. I'm just saying you don't know what you're talking about. As usual.

O2bnVegas

Aug 31, 2020
6:54am

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Originally posted by: Martin Shedlin

"I'm no English major" You can say that again!!

Grammar has nothing to do with the difference between the words "murder" and "killing." I won't bother to go into something so obvious.

FYI, murder can occur in certain cases even in the absence of premeditation if the act that caused the death demonstrated extreme and unusual reckless indifference or depraved indfference to human life.

Because everyone knows breathing is essential to staying alive, a murder charge could be made when someone obstructs another person's airway for a long enough period of time for that person to die of asphyxiation, regardless of motive. I'm not saying that happened in the Floyd case. I'm just saying you don't know what you're talking about. As usual.

Nice reply. Thank you very much.

Boilerman

Aug 31, 2020
11:51am

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Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Surely there is a grammatical difference between "murdered" and "killed" in regard to deaths involving police intervention. I'm no English major, but to me "murdered" refers to intent, premeditation.

I doubt any of the involved cops intended that George Floyd would die as a result of their handling. I'd guess there was bravado that got far out of hand. Not murder, though.

I just pulled it up. United States cops kill about 1100 people per year.

O2bnVegas

Aug 31, 2020
4:50pm

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Originally posted by: Boilerman

I just pulled it up. United States cops kill about 1100 people per year.

That's a pretty low number, considering all the dangerous situations they must attend to.

rdwoodpecker

Aug 31, 2020
5:19pm

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Originally posted by: Martin Shedlin

"I'm no English major" You can say that again!!

Grammar has nothing to do with the difference between the words "murder" and "killing." I won't bother to go into something so obvious.

FYI, murder can occur in certain cases even in the absence of premeditation if the act that caused the death demonstrated extreme and unusual reckless indifference or depraved indfference to human life.

Because everyone knows breathing is essential to staying alive, a murder charge could be made when someone obstructs another person's airway for a long enough period of time for that person to die of asphyxiation, regardless of motive. I'm not saying that happened in the Floyd case. I'm just saying you don't know what you're talking about. As usual.