Another School Shooting 15 Elementary Students Dead In Texas

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

There is.  And for the same reason.  

The difference is people like you try to blame Chicago violence on Democrat government.   But that argument doesn't hold water in the most red, pro-gun state in the country run by a governor who passed the most far right gun legislation in the country.

 

And thats why you want to change the suibject, David.  Otherwise you have to question the bullshit you preach.

 


      Well if you believe that Chicago being a DemocRat run city is not the blame for all of the shootings and murders - then who is and why hasn't the Chicago DemocRat government done anything about the ongoing slaughter and murders? 

They really aren't Kevin.  Milwaukee police throw up there hands and say they can't keep up with it.  I've had it happen to my niece and several people at work just recently.  They said the same to each of them.  One was right out of a secure parking lot and they didn't even check the cameras.  

 

Who is going to enforce it if we get the gun laws passed?  I'm saying if they can't even go after car jackings, how will they have any time to go after the above?

Edited on May 24, 2022 8:21pm
Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

I didn't know car dealers were trying to aquire extremely dangerous vehicles.  And there are TONS of car owners with no liability insurance.  At least in this state there are.  


Yes. And here in liberal radical radical liberal left-wing pinko commie SOOOOOCIALIST Oregon, you get pulled over and you can't show proof of liability insurance, you're walking home, and if you can't show that you actually did have liability insurance at the time, say goodbye to your car.

You are lucky!  You get hit here and you basically cross your fingers the person is responsible enough to have it or it goes on your plan.

 

You may get a ticket for it and then you just don't pay the ticket.  

 

Milwaukee GOP candiate just got 29% of vote for mayor and he was running based on cleaning up the bad crime in Milwaukee.  

Edited on May 24, 2022 8:21pm

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

I agree with you on all those points actually.  But you know somehow the criminals and psychos are going to get them.  US loves their guns.  Australia was more than happy give up their guns.  US won't.  Kind of goes back to the history of each country.  

 

I think all David is saying is this situation is an average weekend in Chicago.  


By "history," I think you mean the westerns that you watched on your teevee, right?

 

How about some actual history? In Dodge City, there was a big sign that read, "The Carrying of Firearms Strictly Prohibited." Tombstone forbad both open carry and concealed carry. In many towns in the West and the South, visitors were required to surrender their guns for the duration of their visit.

 

Little children died today partly because of our fantasy version of American history. Too bad we've turned into such a shithole country.

 

 

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

You are lucky!  You get hit here and you basically cross your fingers the person is responsible enough to have it or it goes on your plan.

 

You may get a ticket for it and then you just don't pay the ticket.  

 

Milwaukee GOP candiate just got 29% of vote for mayor and he was running based on cleaning up the bad crime in Milwaukee.  


 It might be time to move Jerry - Milwaukee does not appear to be a safe place to live.

Originally posted by: MisterPicture

By "history," I think you mean the westerns that you watched on your teevee, right?

 

How about some actual history? In Dodge City, there was a big sign that read, "The Carrying of Firearms Strictly Prohibited." Tombstone forbad both open carry and concealed carry. In many towns in the West and the South, visitors were required to surrender their guns for the duration of their visit.

 

Little children died today partly because of our fantasy version of American history. Too bad we've turned into such a shithole country.

 

 


I'm not disagreeing with any of you.  I'm simply asking "who is going to enforce it?" and none of you are answering that question.  

Originally posted by: David Miller

 It might be time to move Jerry - Milwaukee does not appear to be a safe place to live.


I don't live there but I work there unfortunately.  But you are definitely right.  

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

They really aren't Kevin.  Milwaukee police throw up there hands and say they can't keep up with it.  I've had it happen to my niece and several people at work just recently.  They said the same to each of them.  One was right out of a secure parking lot and they didn't even check the cameras.  

 

Who is going to enforce it if we get them passed?


I really doubt that the massive increase in spending that would be necessary to even put a dent in the rate of car thefts--in any major city--would be welcomed, especially by the noble "fiscal conservatives" who always have the purse strings clutched firmly in their grasp.

 

The cops can't be expected to safeguard your house against bulglary, can they? And since there are far more cars than houses in a city, how can the cops watch each one? Do police departments have the resources to investigate every car theft? And if they somehow did, what would they divert those resources away from?

 

And tell your friends--there are several ways to deter car theft. I don't have to list them all here. But the idea is to make your car less attractive, and more difficult, to steal. It's easy and inexpensive. And if you install a LoJack unit, the latest ones can be set up to alert you if anyone tries to enter your car. (And as far as its cost goes, you can almost always get an insurance premium break.) Or just buy and install The Club.

 

But in any event, I was talking about guns, not car thefts, and I wasn't talking about enforcement; I was talking about more severe penalties for existing convictions, and charging illegal gun sellers as accessories to the crimes committed with those guns. THAT would make the guy selling AK47s out of the trunk of his car pause and reflect before he sold one to the whacked-out nimrod who is mumbling "Gonna kill them motherfuckers" over and over.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

I really doubt that the massive increase in spending that would be necessary to even put a dent in the rate of car thefts--in any major city--would be welcomed, especially by the noble "fiscal conservatives" who always have the purse strings clutched firmly in their grasp.

 

The cops can't be expected to safeguard your house against bulglary, can they? And since there are far more cars than houses in a city, how can the cops watch each one? Do police departments have the resources to investigate every car theft? And if they somehow did, what would they divert those resources away from?

 

And tell your friends--there are several ways to deter car theft. I don't have to list them all here. But the idea is to make your car less attractive, and more difficult, to steal. It's easy and inexpensive. And if you install a LoJack unit, the latest ones can be set up to alert you if anyone tries to enter your car. (And as far as its cost goes, you can almost always get an insurance premium break.) Or just buy and install The Club.

 

But in any event, I was talking about guns, not car thefts, and I wasn't talking about enforcement; I was talking about more severe penalties for existing convictions, and charging illegal gun sellers as accessories to the crimes committed with those guns. THAT would make the guy selling AK47s out of the trunk of his car pause and reflect before he sold one to the whacked-out nimrod who is mumbling "Gonna kill them motherfuckers" over and over.


Conservatives control nothing in Milwaukee.  It is all run by the democrats.  Look into it if you don't believe me. 

 

The Milwaukee police told them they will just cut the top of steering wheel off and slip off The Club in 45 seconds.  But yes, there are definitely other ways to protect your car.  I just couldn't believe how dismissive the police were about it.  

 

I'm not disagreeing with any of you about the need to do something.  These shootings and assault rifles are sickening.  And yes, there are WAY too many guns in the US.  I just don't know who is going to monitor these gun stores, etc.  Who is going to issue these fines.  

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