AOC...........Do as I say, not as I do. She now has Covid.

Liberals have no problems requiring id plus the vaccine passport to enter indoor venues (see NYC to name 1).  What is the difference between that & voter id's?

 

Reducing early voting, getting rid of drive through voting, getting rid of drop boxes, and replacing non-partisan committees with partisan hacks are the real developments

 

I assume you are referring to Georgia.  Early voting there is 2 weeks.  The country survived for over 200 years without drop boxes.  Why is this suddenly so urgent?  On your 3rd point what are you talking about?

Edited on Jan 16, 2022 9:50am

Let me cut to the chase about voter ID. Ballots are and always have been verified with signatures. That simple method works because they are matched with signatures on voter registration documents. This has been done for centuries. There have been very, very few instances of voter fraud using this method. So there shouldn't be any ID requirements at all. A signature verifies a voter's identity. End of story.

 

So the requirement to present ID is redundant, and in any case can only be imposed if in-person voting is used. Mail-in or drop-off balloting uses signature verification alone. In many states, a voter gets a specific ballot (with a serial number) that has already been matched with his registration.

 

So even though voter ID requirements impose a hardship on only a relatively few people, there's no reason for that hardship to be imposed on anyone. We've already exploded Boiler's asinine contention that anyone can just waltz into the DMV or whatever and get a photo ID. Now let me point out that any law that makes it harder for ANYONE to vote is antidemocratic, and profoundly evil.

 

We have a long, long history of voter suppression in this country, especially targeted against the people Boiler hates so very much (his "Black friends"). Maybe we should be encouraging the vote, not restricting it. That's what Biden's trying to do now. And that's what the RepubliQ and Boiler are against.

Originally posted by: Tom

Liberals have no problems requiring id plus the vaccine passport to enter indoor venues (see NYC to name 1).  What is the difference between that & voter id's?


Because it's a public health issue and has nothing to do with voting, Tom, you fucking moron.

Originally posted by: Tom

Liberals have no problems requiring id plus the vaccine passport to enter indoor venues (see NYC to name 1).  What is the difference between that & voter id's?

 

Reducing early voting, getting rid of drive through voting, getting rid of drop boxes, and replacing non-partisan committees with partisan hacks are the real developments

 

I assume you are referring to Georgia.  Early voting there is 2 weeks.  The country survived for over 200 years without drop boxes.  Why is this suddenly so urgent?  On your 3rd point what are you talking about?


Peope who were interested in getting people to participate in their democracy found ways to make it easier for them to do so.    Hence the early voting, drop boxes, drive thru voting.    None of those things caused a problem or enticed voter fraud.  They just made it easier for people to vote.     And it worked.   Voter turnout increased.

 

And that was the big problem Republicans needed to solve.    And they have your support Tom.    And thats ok.  You're allowed to support policy that obstrcructs easier access to peoples' Constituional right to vote.   Just dont insult anyone's inteeligence that somehow you are doing it in the name of fighting voter fraud.   You're just scared of high turnout elections.   Your're in the right party.

 

And my 3rd point is in the same law Georgia law you referenced.   


Trump, as goddamn stupid as he is, got it right. He said that if people are allowed to vote, Republicans would never win another election. Thus the strategy of preventing people from voting.

 

Of course Tommie-poo supports voter supression, because he also realizes, albeit dimly, the reality that nonwhite people are gaining power and old, crusty, nasty, impotent, angry, bigoted white men are losing it. He's willing to piss on democracy to stoke the futile dream that he can somehow stop that from happening.

 

Be afraid, Tommie-poo. Be very afraid. In the very near future, THEM NO-GOOD DARKIES will be telling you what to do. You'll have no choice but to lock yourself in the bathroom and never come out.

Liberals like Toxic Kevin say voter id is bad because people can't get ids, but when it comes to vaccines, not being able to get an id is not an issue. The standard s/b the same. It is either a problem or it isn't. 

When we had same day voting turnout was higher. If you can get to a ballot box, you can get to a polling site. 

Under the Ga law you cannot remove election officials on the same election, it only takes effect in the future. 

So nobody is getting suppressed 

PJ, I asked what about the newest early voting rules that you don't like.  How about an answer.  6 weeks prior to election day fucks Liberals?  Libs are a bunch of loser idiots if that's the case.

 

Should it be a year?

Edited on Jan 16, 2022 12:49pm

What part of the line items in my last answer was unclear to you? 

 

All of the methodology Democtrats implemented and Republicans have now reeled in  increased voter turnout.     Thats not my opinion.  Thats demonstrable fact by statisitics and voter polls.  Getting rid of those things has the oppossitte impact.

 

Explain to me how thats wrong - understanding any argument you give would run contrary to those stats. 

 

So lets ask - What problem is Texas fixing by reducing drop off boxes, limiting early voting or stopping drive thru voting?   Show me one single instance where that resulted in the bullshit voter fraud the crybaby you voted for keeps lying about.   One instance.

 

And explain to me how a state legislature or partisan appointee is more fair at counting votes than a bi-partisan committee.   Are you going to keep dodging that one?

 

Republicans cant win when people show up on election day.  They know it.    So they try to stop it.    They're sleazy that way.   

 

Edited on Jan 16, 2022 1:20pm
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

What part of the line items in my last answer was unclear to you? 

 

All of the methodology Democtrats implemented and Republicans have now reeled in  increased voter turnout.     Thats not my opinion.  Thats demonstrable fact by statisitics and voter polls.  Getting rid of those things has the oppossitte impact.

 

Explain to me how thats wrong - understanding any argument you give would run contrary to those stats. 

 

So lets ask - What problem is Texas fixing by reducing drop off boxes, limiting early voting or stopping drive thru voting?   Show me one single instance where that resulted in the bullshit voter fraud the crybaby you voted for keeps lying about.   One instance.

 

And explain to me how a state legislature or partisan appointee is more fair at counting votes than a bi-partisan committee.   Are you going to keep dodging that one?

 

Republicans cant win when people show up on election day.  They know it.    So they try to stop it.    They're sleazy that way.   

 


So you don't like early voting and drop boxes.  I asked what you don't like about the voting rules and response is "drop boxes".  I specifically asked about early voting....................is six weeks oppressive?  What a joke.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

So you don't like early voting and drop boxes.  I asked what you don't like about the voting rules and response is "drop boxes".  I specifically asked about early voting....................is six weeks oppressive?  What a joke.


I gave you a list of items.   You ran away from all of them except one.   I guess thats the only one you think you have a leg to stand on?   But here you go:  6 weeks of early voting is less time than 8 weeks.  SO, yes, its more restricitive.   What other obvious question can I answer?    Or does that math not work for you?  

 

Now - Are you going to step up to the plate and show me the voter fraud that is being addressed by any of the line items I listed....or defend the partisan vote counters?    Or can you just admit all of these action were passed by a bunch of crybaby losers who want to change the rules so they can win next time?  

 

   thanks for stopping by 

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