Georgia Republipigs pass Jim Crow 2.0

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Don is probably wondering who would be cooking the BBQ sandwiches.  And would this be done at every voting precinct?  And who pays for the groceries?  And how does that apply to Kevin's 2nd Amendment rights? 

 

I'm wondering too, because I missed this story and have no idea what it is all about.  Sounds like Georgia has never implemented early voting, which would greatly shorten the lines on actual voting day.

 

Candy


I would only bring my own food truck. Anyone else could do so if they wished. I would like that, to see Gawghia's finest scurry from one precinct to another, frantic to arrest all of us'n illegal free food and water providers. It would be worth the trouble and expense.

 

I like the suggestion of charging $0.01 for the sandwiches and water, except for the problem that I would then be running a business, and could be hauled away by the local county mounties for doing so without a license.

 

I refer to my so-called Second Amendment rights insofar as if right-wing militia nutballs can stand next to a line of voters holding a fully loaded AR-15, I can sure as hell pack a little heat to discourage anyone from trying to stop me from giving away sandwiches. But I probably would just smile and hand the guy a sandwich. Even if he was a cop. Especially if he was a cop.

 

Candy, by now you probably know that the impetus for this thread was the imposition of a cruel, unjust, racist, unconstitutional, and evil voter suppression bill by Georgia Republicans. Keep in mind that no matter what the cover story du jour may be, their ongoing primary goal is to stop Black people from voting. Losing the Presidential and both Senate races has made Georgia Republicans wet their pants.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Tommie-poo should really be the object of our pity for his complete ignorance. But he doesn't get mine, because he knows damn well that the lack of access to voting in heavily Black districts in Georgia is deliberate, and due to systemic racism, of which he heartily approves.


Dekalb county of which Atlanta is a part of, is a black majority Democratic county. Since the county is responsible for the number of locations & machines, the Democrats have nobody to blame but themselves for delays. 

Originally posted by: tom

Dekalb county of which Atlanta is a part of, is a black majority Democratic county. Since the county is responsible for the number of locations & machines, the Democrats have nobody to blame but themselves for delays. 


Factually and completely incorrect.

Please feel free to detail the error 


Originally posted by: Don

Kevin Lewis comments:

"I for one would like to set up a food truck with free BBQ pulled pork sandwiches and ice-cold Dr. Pepper for all voters, and if anyone tried to hassle me, I'd deploy my Second Amendment rights...y'all."

 

What is stopping Kevin Lewis from doing so, . . . at least for some voters ?    Oh, and please post photos for folks in this forum.


There seems to be some misunderstanding concerning DonDiego's post of  11:27 on 28 March, above.

 

As quoted above, the post referenced Kevin Lewis, who had offered to "set up a food truck" for those online to vote in Georgia.

All DonDiego asked is: if Kevin Lewis "would like to set up a food truck" what is stopping him from doing so.

 

Poor old DonDiego apologizes for any misunderstanding his post may have generated.

Originally posted by: Don

There seems to be some misunderstanding concerning DonDiego's post of  11:27 on 28 March, above.

 

As quoted above, the post referenced Kevin Lewis, who had offered to "set up a food truck" for those online to vote in Georgia.

All DonDiego asked is: if Kevin Lewis "would like to set up a food truck" what is stopping him from doing so.

 

Poor old DonDiego apologizes for any misunderstanding his post may have generated.


According to the new fascist voter suppression laws in Gawhgia, what might stop me from doing so is the illegality of such an action. In actuality, I would be happy to be hauled away by the local Gestapo for the heinous crime of giving people BBQ sandwiches. Think of it as a watershed civil rights moment.

 

In all seriousness, if the new fascist law survives court challenges (and given that those would be Georgia courts, still controlled by Republipigs, it probably will), I expect hundreds of instances of open defiance at the polls in 2022. The cops might have to retreat under a barrage of water bottles.

I finally read what this is about.  Those of you who made "can't bring a drink of water" to voters in line an issue here are all falling for distortions of the truth...as usual.   Water can be brought to anyone in lines by the precinct.  What cannot be brought are tee shirts, mugs, etc. by candidates, special interest campaigners, etc. under the guise of "just handing out water", which must have become a practice in Georgia.  I'm surprise anyone would be in favor of this type of campaign subterfuge.  Where I vote, campaigners and their signs are required to stay a certain number of feet away from the voters/voting lines, which is monitored by at least one representative of each party, to hold the other party to it. 

 

As for requiring voter photo ID:  Drivers license, or state issued ID free of charge.  Oh, the horror...insuring that anyone who votes on issues or offices applicable in America is who he says he is.   The new law applies to requesting an absentee ballot, since every voter in Georgia already must present the photo ID at the polling place.  

 

It also expands early voting in most counties including on some Sundays.   I always wonder why people don't vote early where available (sooo much more convenient), but some people just enjoy the tradition of doing it on election day, and that's fine.  Your choice. 

 

It also allows every voter to request a mail ballot. 

 

Candy 

Candy, you're being fooled like so many others. The language of the bill appears to be reasonable and commonsense. But that--and this is the very, very important distinction--is assuming that there is such a thing as widespread, rampant election fraud and that any election Democrats win must have been stolen.

 

Without going into the intricate details, ID requirements disenfranchise certain groups of people (and gawrsh, isn't it a coincidence that those people tend to vote Democrat!). There's nothing wrong with the signature verification that has been used for decades.

 

There's also the cruel and unjust provision that each voter can only cast his/her ballot at one specific precinct. "Coincidentally," polls in heavily Black districts will be closed at 5 pm. What if someone wants to vote but has a job that's located in another district? SOL! You might say this is a relatively minor inconvenience, but I would say, what's the point? What exactly is wrong with saying someone can cast a valid ballot at ANY precinct?

 

Every provision in this horrid new law has only ONE purpose--to keep Black people from voting. None of the provisions in the law have any practical reason for the proposed action.

 

The law prohibits "...the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food or drink, to any elector...within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place." This does NOT refer solely to the giving out of trinkets, banners, mugs, t-shirts, etc. You're wrong when you say it doesn't prohibit giving people water. It explicitly does precisely that.

 

I don't see any provision in the bill that prohibits white supremacists from standing next to voting lines, holding loaded automatic weapons and scowling at voters. They must have accidentally left that out.

 

Candy, this is voter suppression at its worst, and you shouldn't excuse or condone it. I didn't even mention the ballot certification changes, which give the power to invalidate ballots to Republican officials. The entire bill and the Republipig rhetoric that supports it is based on a lie--that the election was "stolen." There's no reason or rationale for the bill other than to keep them uppity Black folk from voting--an ongoing effort that has been continuous from 1865 to the present day!

 

If I lived in the South, I would be ashamed. This evil shit isn't confined to Georgia.

 

 

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

I finally read what this is about.  Those of you who made "can't bring a drink of water" to voters in line an issue here are all falling for distortions of the truth...as usual.


Serious question: Where did you hear or see that. Because we should all know what media sources you trust, because going forward, it reflects on YOUR credibility. Your other claims are garbage too, but let's do one at a time, okay?

 

HERE IS THE TEXT OF THE LAW:

 

(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:

 

(1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is established;

 

(2) Within any polling place; or

 

(3) Within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.

 

Mister P, that's what's so insidious about this voter suppression crap. It's couched in reasonable-sounding language and carefully justified and rationalized by those who support it. Any objections are being met with pious statements like "We want to protect the integrity of the voting process." This is, of course, code for "We want to make sure we never lose another election." It's like people who blow up abortion clinics calling themselves "pro-life," or a government bombing a village off the map calling it "anti-terrorism."

 

Candy, usually a reasonable person, is accusing us of "falling for distortions of the truth...as usual." Well, shucky darn, gullible ol' us, as usual---yeah, we're jest suckers for that ol' democracy stuff and done gits plumb upset when anyone threatens it. Silly ol' us.

 

I'm a student of history. The erosion of democratic freedoms and the transition from democracy to authoritarianism rarely happens suddenly or all at once. It's incremental; gradual. Until one day you wake up and find out that the ruling junta has appointed itself dictators-for-life, and your friend who wrote that letter to the editor criticizing them has disappeared.

 

And the worst part of it is that the evil Republican pigs who are perpetrating this horrible crime in Georgia and elsewhere were duly elected. When the people want to have their freedoms taken away, that surely is what will happen. Do the yahoos who vote Republican really think that "stop the voting" will cease once Black people's voting rights are destroyed?

Edited on Mar 31, 2021 1:41pm
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