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Originally posted by: tom

Once again kevin is unable to answer a question; this one on what he thinks what was wrong with President Trump's plan?

 

 

What does kevin think of cuomo for lying about how many people died in NY nursing homes?

 

If the NY, Ca, Il, NJ & Ct lockdowns are so good why aren't they in the top 5 for per capita?


You and Boiler love to lie: "Kevin says" or "Kevin thinks" followed by something I never thought or said.

 

And just because I choose not to answer a question doesn't mean I'm unable to do so. So, fine, Tommie-poo, here's my answer. What was wrong with Trump's plan? (I actually have answered this, but I'll go into more detail, since you seem to have poor reading comprehension.)

 

Trump never set up a coordinated federal vaccine distribution plan. He left it up to the states. He never invoked the Defense Production Act to speed vaccine production. He not only ignored the CDC, Dr. Fauci, and other experts, he actively sought to block their efforts and dismiss them. Instead of dealing with the pandemic, he spent all his time trying to win the election and then to overturn the results. He failed as a leader.

 

So, Tom, the answer to your question is that the evil, stupid, incompetent man whom you LUVVVV, whom you voted for, for whom you have forfeited your personal dignity and morals, completely botched the coronavirus response efforts, including production and distribution of vaccines, because he was too busy acting in his own self-interest to do his goddamn job. And then, as people like you cheered, he incited a mob to storm the Capitol. You can't be an insurrectionist and the President of the United States at the same time.

 

But don't worry, Tommie-poo. I'm sure you'll get that lollipop Trump promised you. Eventually. Now go away.

Originally posted by: MisterPicture

Can I answer that one? Cuomo has always been a steaming pile of crap on any number of issues. New York liberals have long been opposed to him.

 

And New York City tends to have lots of virus transmission because they have 27,000 people per square mile, and millions of them are forced to use elevators and subways on a daily basis. tom, I don't want to strain your brain cells, but do you think, maybe, that might increase the transmission of disease?


C'mon, Mister Picture, Tommie-poo isn't capable of understanding advanced concepts such as that virus transmission is greater in densely populated places. You might as well try to explain how a computer works to a toddler.

 

I don't like Cuomo, either. Tommie-poo seems to think that all liberals are of one mind and that he can craft a powerfully compelling argument by saying, "What about THIS guy, huh? HUH? HUH?????" In response, I would ask him: how do you feel about Marjorie Taylor Greene, Tommie-poo? Or Lauren Boebert? They're Republicans, so they're just like you, right?

 

And just for grins---the ridiculous narrative that conservatives don't catch the virus as much as liberals do was debunked during the summer, when Clem Cornpone, Tucky Buckford, and Cowboy Bob proved to be just as susceptible as anyone else. I have pointed out numerous times the fallacy of the argument, which sticks to Tommie-poo like glue: 1) large cities have high case rates 2) large cities tend to be liberal 3) therefore, liberalism causes Covid. It's "correlation does not equal causation," which though a simple concept, is utterly beyond the ability of many people--like Tommie-poo and Boiler--to fathom.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Your tireless efforts as a Trump warrior are being duly noted and a place is reserved for you in Trump Valhalla.

 

I will not honor you with conversation unless and until you cease your ugly and stupid habit of saying "Kevin says.." or "Kevin believes..." followed by something I never said. In fact, Boiler, you're lying through your teeth, because I explicitly said I didn't know why Oregon and other states got shorted during the Trump administration. You read that. You're lying now.

 

How would states agree? Using census data and CDC guidelines. DUH!

 

No more discussion with you until you break your habit of lying about what I've said.


 How many vaccine doses has Oregon received and how many doses should they have received Kevin?  You claim that Oregon got screwed, so give us stats.

 

Nothing substanitve is certain to follow.

End of discussion. Boiler may say that he won if he wants.


Florida has large cities (miami & orlando), but their numbers are similiar to the large lockdown liberal states. 

 

It took cuomo a month to shut down the subways overnight to clean. 

 

Population density has nothing to do with sending covid patients into nursing homes that were not set up to handle these patients & then take almost 2 months to reverse tbe policy after being told it was a problem. 

Dr Doubletalk has come down squarely on both sides of this issue.  In one month the US went from zero doses to 16 million.  That pretty good.  In one month we went from zero doses per day to over 1 million per day.  Due to the size of the counry & the different demographics the only way to distribute was to leave it to the states, who had the infrastructure to do this.

 

Yesterday some facilities in NY had to cancel their appointments due to a lack of vaccines.  Is that biden's fault?

A lack of any coordinated Federal Planning and/or  resources has been the primary issue to date.   Dont take my word for it....you can take it from the state governors accross both parties who echo the same comment.

 

States struggle with vaccine rollout in absence of any Federal coordination

 

 

Or (like Tom) you can roll with the QaNon version  of easily verified facts whilst ridiculing  the country's leading epidemiologist.     Its a free country.  Being crazy is not illegal until you storm the Capitol. 

 

Have a great day. 

Originally posted by: tom

Dr Doubletalk has come down squarely on both sides of this issue.  In one month the US went from zero doses to 16 million.  That pretty good.  In one month we went from zero doses per day to over 1 million per day.  Due to the size of the counry & the different demographics the only way to distribute was to leave it to the states, who had the infrastructure to do this.

 

Yesterday some facilities in NY had to cancel their appointments due to a lack of vaccines.  Is that biden's fault?


But Tommie-poo, why is the current vaccination rate "pretty good"? Compared to what? Based on what prior mass vaccination standard? 16 million doses is less than three percent of the 600 million+ doses that will be needed to vaccinate the entire population (since most of the available vaccines require two doses).

 

The size of the US and its varying demographics are the exact reason why it is NOT a good idea to leave vaccine distribution to the states! Fifty different entities trying to accomplish the same goal simultaneously, in fact competing with one another, is a recipe for chaos.

 

Of course, Tommie-poo supports this inefficient, chaotic distribution method only because his orange god implemented it. In this, he proves himself a loyal Trump-slave. Fortunately, though, Biden realizes that it must be a national, coordinated effort. But it takes a long time to fix the messes Trump created.

PJ, most governors want to pass the buck for their mistakes.

 

I'm that you and I agree that this winter storm that is slowing vaccine distribution is Trump's fault.  He should have planned for this and had the army clearning the snow from the roads.  Better yet, he should have prevented the snow from falling.  Certainly, snow removal should not be left to the states as these things can only handled well at the federal level.

 

And Kevin, my goal was not to "win".  My goal was to lead you to information that would change your opinion.  Since you are unwilling to read about the facts, I have not won.  At least I know the truth, however.

Isn't it kind of appalling that the Trump apologists are still out there and vigorously defending their fallen orange god? I mean, what for? No reward is attached to debasing oneself in this way.

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