How Many Of You Trumpets Really Believe Trump Won?

I reeeaaally didn't want to chime in on this.   Here is my theory (as if anyone cares or whether true or not):

With all that has gone on, with all the hand counting and re-counting, all the hell-raising by the presumptive loser, I can only guess that he (the presumptive loser) had something set up in the background that would insure an outcome in his favor.   And somehow, whatever/whomever that 'fix' was, it didn't happen.  Somebody screwed him over.  That has to be why he continues to demand that he won.  Somebody was supposed to make sure of it, and they didn't do their job.  JMHO. 

Well, it would make a good movie, anyway.

Not that I believe after all that has happened he would win.  Whether bad luck (the virus, George Floyd, BLM), his perceived response to the virus (seemed negligent), messing with the USPS regarding mailed ballots, his public blatent racially insulting actions (that's when I said he can forget it).

My little polling place had sophistocated computer voting machines---click, click,click, turn the page, click, click until the "I certify" click.  The ballot printed out.  No way could I alter it. 

Walked ballot to the insert it into the counting machine, where I suppose my votes were officially logged.  Why doesn't every state have these?  Any questions, and I assume the machines could be more efficiently interrogated than having people counting and re-counting for hours (it appeared to take two humans to veryify the re-count of each ballot),

My state wasn't one in contention (I think we get 2 Electoral College votes).

This isn't an endorsement of either candidate, so save your breath (or fingers).  Just my goofy thoughts.

Candy

Trump is delusional, but the actions by other Republicans are designed to cripple President Biden's administration. Next, they will be saying that they won't confirm any cabinet appointments as long as there is a dispute. And then they will say that they won't consider legislation because Biden may not be a legit president.

The Republican party no longer believes in democracy when they lose. It's that simple.

And the Democrats handled their loss in 2016 real well! Cost taxpayers millions and 3 years of the House doing nothing to move the country forward. So, Democrats get no sympathy from me!

If there is proof of  significant  voter fraud let's investigate it and yes, prosecute the people involved.  If there is litle proof or no proof, then the Republicans need to eat crow.   

The courts so far has determined not enough fraud to warrant further inquiry.  There was not evidence of enough fraud to change the election,according to William Barr.

I'm sure they'll be absolutely crushed to hear that from you!

Contrast, if you would like, the grace and dignity with which Obama handed over his office in early 2017 with how Trump is behaving now.

Democrats didn't go whining to the courts to try to overturn the election in 2016. They didn't craft batshit conspiracy theories about fake ballots. They didn't float baseless accusations that everybody who voted for Trump had committed election fraud.

And unlike Trump, they didn't accuse millions of Americans of being dishonest.

That's precisely the problem! There are NO consequences that have devolved or will devolve on Republicans who continue to fulfill their role as Trump's boot-lickers. They're lying through their teeth--but what of it? they say. They get kudos from "the base" for lying, and any of them who tell the truth get savaged, so why not lie?

(Aside from any silly ol' questions of ethics, loyalty to one's country, or common decency, of course.)

No matter what state you live in, it gets at least three electoral votes: one for existing, and one for each senator.

I don't think Trump and/or his lackeys had anything skanky going on with the ballots or the counting process as such. For one thing, any such efforts would have had to be, in addition to being successful, replicated in multiple states. I don't think they had the manpower or the strategies to cheat. Not that they wouldn't have done so if they could have thought of a way. Trump himself doesn't have the brainpower.

My theory is that Trump and the Republiholes were all-in with the Supreme Court. Mitch and the gang deployed obscene haste in getting Trump's New Nazi Girl stuffed into the court in time for the election. I believe they all thought--or pretended to think, to placate Trump--that SCOTUS would behave like a gang of Trump stooges rather than an actual court. That and, many states have governors, courts, and legislatures that swore absolute fealty to Trump a long time ago. The collective Trumpholes might have thought this way: hey, we'll get one or three states to invalidate their results and appoint a different slate of electors, and if need be, we'll go whining to the Supreme Court, who will show the "loyalty" that Trump demands.

As to why Trump continues to defy reality and bleat, despite all logic and evidence, that he won the election--well, just remember that his all-time bigliest favoritest book is "The Power of Positive Thinking," which proclaims that one can alter reality just by thinking hard enough about the version of it that you want. So IMHO, his persistent ravings are an attempt to make that work.

Jphelan said, "I believe there was a significant level of voter fraud in the 2020 election, even higher than in prior elections."

I also believe this will only increase, and diminish confidence in elections, if not prosecuted.

Yet in 50+ cases they have been unable to produce any evidence of fraud.  When Trump’s lawyers get cornered by the judges, they sheepishly admit they have no evidence of voter fraud.  Their argument is simply we don’t like the rules of the state when it comes to elections so we should throw out the votes but only in the areas where Trump lost.  

It is the conspiracy-mongering by Trump, Republican elected officials and Republican opinion personalities that diminish confidence in elections. Biden won by 7+ million votes and the electoral college by the same margin as Trump did in 2016. At the time Trump and the Republican party said it was a blowout and it gave them a mandate.

If losing the popular vote by 2 million is a blowout mandate according to Republicans, Biden kicked Trump's ass so thoroughly he held Trump down and smeared his nose in his own poop to conclude the ass-kicking.

Candy said, " … had something set up in the background that would insure an outcome in his favor.   And somehow, whatever/whomever that 'fix' was, it didn't happen.  Somebody screwed him over.  That has to be why he continues to demand that he won.  Somebody was supposed to make sure of it, and they didn't do their job.  JMHO."

It is clear they planned all along to litigate the results in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania if they lost. What threw a wrench into those plans was losing Arizona and Georgia. That is why Trump is so angry at Fox News for calling Arizona and Georgia Republicans. He simply believed those states were his no matter what. He calls the Republicans in Georgia incompetent because he thinks they didn’t do a good enough job suppressing largely black voters in that state.  He thinks it is Fox News fault he lost Arizona because he thought as long as it wasn't called, he could coerce Republican elected officials into putting their thumbs on the scale. 

And of course, we know he cheated by disassembling the postal sorting machines. That should be investigated and if crimes were committed those that committed the crimes should be prosecuted including Trump if he knew about or participated in the scheme. 

rdwoodpecker said, "And the Democrats handled their loss in 2016 real well! Cost taxpayers millions and 3 years of the House doing nothing to move the country forward. So, Democrats get no sympathy from me!

How many lawsuits did the Democrats file contesting the election?  How many Democratic members of Congress and Republican state Attorney General’s signed on to those lawsuits?"

After the 2016 election, Republicans controlled the Presidency, The House and The Senate for two years. If nothing got done and it cost the taxpayers millions, that is all on the Republicans as they did not need any Democratic votes to govern.

You seem to be blaming Democrats for Republican problems and to be cheering for Republicans to derail the US Government while we face the worst crisis in the history of the nation. You shouldn't feel sympathy towards Democrats you should feel sympathy toward the Ameican people who will suffer as the result of conservative sedition. 

Clinton congratulated Trump the day after the election. Obama invited Trump to the White House shortly thereafter. Vice-President Biden hosted Vice-President-elect Pence soon also. The Obama White House team cooperated with the Trump transition team, and the Trump team publicly thanked them.

And by the way,183 bipartisan bills passed by the Democratic House weren't even put up for a vote in the Republican Senate.

Not looking for sympathy, pecker. But if you're trying to overthrow a landslide victory, you really are un-American.

And when did I say I was trying to “overthrow” an election? You read shit in where their is none. As much as  I dislike the election results, I accept we have a new President. So lighten up with your constant accusing people of this and that.