Originally posted by: rdwoodpecker
And when did I say I was trying to “overthrow” an election? You read shit in where their is none. As much as I dislike the election results, I accept we have a new President. So lighten up with your constant accusing people of this and that.
Then good for you. I apologize.
Originally posted by: rdwoodpecker
And when did I say I was trying to “overthrow” an election? You read shit in where their is none. As much as I dislike the election results, I accept we have a new President. So lighten up with your constant accusing people of this and that.
Uhhh...you telling anyone to stop "accusing people of this and that"...you've been pretty accusatory, and nasty to boot, in the course of making false allegations about what I and many others think and have said.
You whined about how something Democrats did (I have no idea exactly what you were talking about) after the election "cost taxpayers millions." Yet, you have no problem with pointless recounts, over fifty lawsuits, etc., etc. etc. from Trump and his lackeys--all of which definitely "cost taxpayers millions." Also, you have no problem with stupid shit like Da Wall, which will cost $30 billion to complete.
You're entitled to be partisan; you're entitled to adopt a warped ideology supported by a demagogue and his cadre of kleptomaniacs; you're even entitled to be nasty about it and attack anyone whom you see as an opponent. What you're NOT entitled to do is criticize others when they behave as you have--albeit much more mildly.
Also, only the most partisan of blinders could make anyone think that the way Obama and the Democrats handed over power in 2016-2017 is even remotely comparable to what Trump and his goons are doing now.
Omg Kevin, Russia collusion was a joke, at least for Trump. Now Joe and Hunter may have some splain' to do!
Thank you Mister, I appreciate that.
Originally posted by: rdwoodpecker
Omg Kevin, Russia collusion was a joke, at least for Trump. Now Joe and Hunter may have some splain' to do!
Thank you Mister, I appreciate that.
Unless and until Hunter Biden is actually found guilty of any kind of crime, babbling about him in a feeble attempt to somehow discredit Joe Biden is a pathetic and flaccid Trumper idiocy---recycled Sean Hannity vomit. Why do you want to eat Sean Hannity's vomit?.
Let's talk about Trump's eleven felonies that were uncovered by the Mueller report, as long as you want to bring THAT up! And Trump, BTW, did indeed collude with Russia. Eleven felonies! Jan. 20 might very well be Arrest Day. No wonder Trump is struggling and whining so loudly!
Your panties are twisted more by some alleged wrongdoing by the President-elect's son than by the actual serious crimes committed by the Orange Felon whom you adore. Your thought processes are seriously warped.
Originally posted by: jphelan
I believe there was a significant level of voter fraud in the 2020 election, even higher than in prior elections.
I also believe this will only increase, and diminish confidence in elections, if not prosecuted.
Some people believe we never landed on the moon, some people believe that LBJ arranged the murder of Kennedy, and some people believe that space aliens are being kept in New Mexico. The problem is that no evidence exists to support these beliefs. And you are free to believe that there was fraud in this and previous elections; the problem is that there is no evidence to support that belief. I know that Trump, and Fox, and assorted sycophants repeat it constantly, but, the problem is that there is no evidence to support it. If such evidence exists, please bring it to court. Otherwise, please join the other conspiracy nuts standing in the far corner.
Originally posted by: Dealer1
Some people believe we never landed on the moon, some people believe that LBJ arranged the murder of Kennedy, and some people believe that space aliens are being kept in New Mexico. The problem is that no evidence exists to support these beliefs. And you are free to believe that there was fraud in this and previous elections; the problem is that there is no evidence to support that belief. I know that Trump, and Fox, and assorted sycophants repeat it constantly, but, the problem is that there is no evidence to support it. If such evidence exists, please bring it to court. Otherwise, please join the other conspiracy nuts standing in the far corner.
If only they were standing in the far corner! The sad truth is, they're right in the middle of everything, in everyone's faces, marching down the streets of Washington, bleating nonsense on alt-right "news" channels, and of course, giving deranged press conferences.
We're in a post-truth world. It has become mainstream-legitimate to simply lie about reality with bald-faced impunity. Trump and his goons never get called out on even the most obvious and egregious of their bullshit. And here on our widdle forum, we have several people who are perfectly willing to bleat nonsensical shit like "Trump won the election," even in the face of overwhelming evidence that Biden has won.
I think that part of it is cognitive dissonance. You believe something nonsensical, then it becomes apparent just how nonsenical it is, and instead of saying, "wow, I was wrong," you double down and scream the lie even louder, because that's less painful than introspection and truth. I think that's what's happening with many Trumpers now. To admit at this juncture that they've supported one of the most horrible human beings to ever walk this earth would be too painful; it's easier to keep on screaming the lie.
Originally posted by: jphelan
I believe there was a significant level of voter fraud in the 2020 election, even higher than in prior elections.
I also believe this will only increase, and diminish confidence in elections, if not prosecuted.
Trump is definitely proving in courts that voter fraud did not occur enough to alter the election. Where is the evidence? Why don't the television news and radio talk show hosts bring evidence to a court? Maybe they shout the lies because there is a certain segment that wants to hear them. Maybe they're preying on you and so many others for their own profit. They're using you to make money!! Tune in tomorrow and be sure to tell your friends. That way they can increase their commercial revenue stream and keep the job.
Originally posted by: PackerBackerAZ
Trump is definitely proving in courts that voter fraud did not occur enough to alter the election. Where is the evidence? Why don't the television news and radio talk show hosts bring evidence to a court? Maybe they shout the lies because there is a certain segment that wants to hear them. Maybe they're preying on you and so many others for their own profit. They're using you to make money!! Tune in tomorrow and be sure to tell your friends. That way they can increase their commercial revenue stream and keep the job.
"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people"--HL Mencken
"There's a sucker born every minute"--PT Barnum
However obtuse Trump may be, this is one thing he instinctively knows, down to his bones.
A wise person wrote (and I paraphrase): Nobody loses anymore. If you lost, you didn't really lose, you got cheated. This is a very dangerous concept/mind set. No respect for majority opinion/process, fair fight, majority vote.
FWIW.
Candy
