Mister Tough Guy starts a war

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Iran has been attacking America for years.

 

I was quite clear that I want oil infrastructure destroyed.  Few Iranians would die and they wouldn't be the target in my plan.  It's much more difficult to wage war with little money.


Few Iranians would die--only those several hundred who are working at the oil production facilities that we blow up. Iran will be totally cool with that. And we should have no qualms over killing civilians. Yes siree Bob.

Originally posted by: tom

Iran's oil production is the equivalent of about 30 minutes of the US oil production.  So there will be no effect on gas prices. 


Tom, not exactily.  Iran produces about 25% of what the US does, and we're by a slight margin the World's largest oil producer.  Iran supplies about 5% of global consumption.  If we stomped them, oil prices would jump..............but not causing $10 gasoline prices as crazy Kevin predicts.

Originally posted by: tom

Iran's oil production is the equivalent of about 30 minutes of the US oil production.  So there will be no effect on gas prices. 


There will be both perceived and actual threats to supply from the entire Middle East. Iran can effectively close the Strait of Hormuz. They can destroy Saudi oil production. If they want, they can make previous supply disruptions look like a picnic.

 

They probably don't want to do that, but the next stupid move by Trump may provoke them. We all await the Orange One showing us how bigly his dick is.

It's not free to me.  I'm paying far more than my share of the costs.

 

When my kids were growing up, I explained how every boy will experience others who want to push them around.  These kids are often bigger and stronger.  I told me boys that they could choose to take if for years, or they could fight, and fight these kids hard.  I explained that they may lose the fight, but make sure that they cause the other guys damage and pain.  It will then be done.  This policy worked for boys and it'll work with Iran.

 

Since we've learned that Iran intentionally hit nothing, I would be hope that we're open to talking with Iran.  Tell them one more attack, proxy or direct, and their oil production gets cut by 50%.  When that next attack happens, hit their oil product hard.

Edited on Jan 8, 2020 8:08am

GOOD NEWS !

 

"Iran fired a number of missiles at two Iraqi bases housing US troops Wednesday local time in retaliation for the American strike that killed a top Iranian general last week.
The US has '100% accountability' of all its forces in Iraq, with no US casualties, according to a US defense official familiar with the latest assessment on Wednesday morning. The official added that there has been 'no major damage' at either base."
Ref: CNN
Originally posted by: Boilerman

Tom, not exactily.  Iran produces about 25% of what the US does, and we're by a slight margin the World's largest oil producer.  Iran supplies about 5% of global consumption.  If we stomped them, oil prices would jump..............but not causing $10 gasoline prices as crazy Kevin predicts.


Boilerman should research what has happened to global oil prices in the past when 1% or less of the world's production was temporarily disrupted. The Boiler Plan would produce a virtually permanent disruption of 5%---and that's assuming Iran wouldn't retaliate against Saudi oil production facilities.

 

Tom probably doesn't understand that when you cut the supply of a commodity by 5%, the price doesn't go up by just 5%---it skyrockets. And if Trump succeeds in starting a widespread regional war, we might wind up hoping that gas prices only hit $10.

 

But regardless of the actual magnitude of the consequences, wouldn't the Trump/Boiler War cost everyone a shitload of money and get a bunch of people killed? Haven't we learned anything about the costs of war?

 

The world stage is not a dick-waving contest.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Boilerman should research what has happened to global oil prices in the past when 1% or less of the world's production was temporarily disrupted. The Boiler Plan would produce a virtually permanent disruption of 5%---and that's assuming Iran wouldn't retaliate against Saudi oil production facilities.

 

Tom probably doesn't understand that when you cut the supply of a commodity by 5%, the price doesn't go up by just 5%---it skyrockets. And if Trump succeeds in starting a widespread regional war, we might wind up hoping that gas prices only hit $10.

 

But regardless of the actual magnitude of the consequences, wouldn't the Trump/Boiler War cost everyone a shitload of money and get a bunch of people killed? Haven't we learned anything about the costs of war?

 

The world stage is not a dick-waving contest.


And Kevin doesn't understand that the global oil producers could pick up the 5% production within a few months.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

PJ, they've been attacking us for years and we've done little.  At some point, the US has to stand up to these radical Muslim thugs.


Ah. The real issue for you is that they're MOOOOZLEEMS. MOOOOZLEEMS! MOOOOZLEEMS! MOOOOZLEEMS!!!!!!!!

 

Now, the paranoia and persecution begin. On Tuesday, thirteen Iranian-Americans--American citizens--were detained for up to a day at the Canadian border while trying to come home--they had been visiting relatives in Vancouver. There was no reason to suspect them of anything and their detention was unlawful (most of them had crossed and recrossed the border several times a year, and they all had the NEXUS cards that are supposed to expedite entry.

 

I'm always appalled at how quick Republicans are to strip away the human rights of a particular class or group because of some imaginary threat. What are we going to do next, round up everyone of Iranian descent and put them into internment camps because, y'know, they're all Muslims and therefore terrorists?

And I am also appalled at how Der Fuhrer ALWAYS condems any efforts to protect America. 

Originally posted by: Boilerman

And Kevin doesn't understand that the global oil producers could pick up the 5% production within a few months.


Yeah, yeah, You have no idea what I do and don't understand---but what you seem to not understand is that wars are never quick and tidy, that people suffer and some die because of them, there are always unforeseen costs, and they always last longer than anticipated.

 

Haven't you Republican flag-wavers learned anything from Iraq and Afghanistan? Do you really think there can be such a thing as a tidy little war that we start and then call off when we please, like Dubya did aboard that aircraft carrier?

 

Global oil production could possibly eventually compensate for the loss of iranian production, but that wouldn't be the only consequence of the Trump/Boiler War for oil supplies. Iran could, and probably would, destroy Saudi oil production in retaliation. They could close the Strait of Hormuz. We'd see disruptions in supply at least comparable to the Arab oil embargos of last century, and maybe much worse.

 

But it would all be worth it, I guess, to validate Trump's manhood and make you happy that we're killing MOOOOZLEEEMS!

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