Ohio train derailment

Kevin, Obama's law only called for upgrade brake systems on trains pulling 10 or more cars of hazardous and flammable gas.  Would any of you boys and girls explain to us how many cars of vinyl chloride where on this train?

There were 11 tank cars that carried hazardous and flammable gas of which 5 carried vinyl chloride (115,580 gallons). Your point is?

Oh and do you even know what vinyl chloride is and what it's used for?

On February 16, NTSB director Jennifer Homendy said people blaming the accident on the repeal of the ECP rule were spreading "misinformation.

The ECP braking rule would’ve applied ONLY to HIGH HAZARD FLAMMABLE TRAINS. The train that derailed in East Palestine was a MIXED FREIGHT TRAIN containing only 3 placarded Class 3 flammable liquids cars.

Even if the ECP rule had been in place, it wouldn't have applied to the train that derailed in East Palestine. That train was carrying mixed cargo without enough high-flammable cargo-containing cars to trigger the old ECP rule.

The bottom line is Republicans are suddenly big on the idea of "more regulations" whereas thats the oppositte of their traditional bullshit.  

But it wont last.   This is very much like the aftermath of a mass shooting.  Moderate Republicans will give some lip service to making safety reforms for about a  month until the news cycle moves on....and then they will vote against any such measures.  

This will be Kevin McCarthy's first big attempt to show leadership of his House.     I'm betting he fails.  I hope I'm wrong.  Pretty sure I'm not.

3 vinyl chloride rail cars met the criteria for the special electronic brakes, but since this train didn't have 10 such cars, the law would not have been in force.  The next most hazardous product was butyl acrylate, which is nothing horrible.  Also, to be more specific, to the products included in the brake regulation need to be explosive gases, and all products other than vinyl chloride are liguid.  Also, you may have read that there was ethylene glycol on the train, which is incorrect.  As you may know, ethylene glycol plus water makes auto antifreeze.  This product that is being misidentified was ethylene glycol monobutyl ether, which is a completely different animal.  This is mostly used in the paint industry and I've sold millions of pounds of this stuff in previous jobs when I sold solvents.  I've also sold millions of pounds of ethylene glycol/

I sell a vinyl chloride derivative (PVC) and butyl acrylate derivatives (acrylic emulsions) used mostly to make acrylic paint.

To clarify, this train would not have had electronic brakes.  You won't believe me no matter what I post, and those who care to learn the truth will spend 5 minutes on research.  The Liberals will opt out of this research, and that's why you're known as "low information voters".

Boiler is 1) claiming to know what caused the crash and 2) arguing with himself. He does that a lot.

The point we're making is that conservitard whining about how the Biden administration responded to the crash is hypocritical when the Trump administration's--Boiler's and Tom's heroes--only response to multiple such crashes was to destroy the Obama administration's safety regulations.

So what you are saying is The Trump administration thought trains with even more hazardous checmicals than the one in East Palestine didnt need better brakes whereas the Obama Administration did. 

Remember when you tried changing the topic of this thread to transporting oil and asked if it was more dangerous to transport it by rail?  I guess the answer is what administration is in charge of regulations.   

I'm saying that had Obama's regulations were in place that they would have done nothing.  We can always spend limitless money to make things safer.  How about a cop in every classroom, hotel, office building, classroom or car?

The point is that Liberals are again lying about the facts.  Wait.  Lyin' Liberals is redundant.

Stupid tom can only copy and paste without a link. The Governor of Ohio didn't know what the fuck was passing through his state.

https://www.progressiverailroading.com/norfolk_southern/news/NTSBs-Homendy-Train-derailment-was-preventable--68664

So no regulations for the railroads, right?