So The Republican Party Wants To Defund The Police

Originally posted by: Mark

Nope, I intentionally used the inflammatory term conservatives do to show their hypocrisy.


     Hypocrisy? Infammatory term? Are you saying that the term "defund the police" is a inflammatory term?  That is and has been the mantra for the America ruining DemocRats for years and now you label it "inflammatory". Now who is the one utilizing "hypocrisy"? You really are ignorant - go chase some ambulances, you fucking lying moron.

Originally posted by: David Miller

     Hypocrisy? Infammatory term? Are you saying that the term "defund the police" is a inflammatory term?  That is and has been the mantra for the America ruining DemocRats for years and now you label it "inflammatory". Now who is the one utilizing "hypocrisy"? You really are ignorant - go chase some ambulances, you fucking lying moron.


"Defund the police" has been a statement made by a small minority of the Democratic party and is not a part of its official platform.

 

You know, just like "Stop the Steal" is a position only held by a fringe minority of the Republican party.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

"Defund the police" has been a statement made by a small minority of the Democratic party and is not a part of its official platform.

 

You know, just like "Stop the Steal" is a position only held by a fringe minority of the Republican party.


 Bullshit - that phrase has been used by your lying Democrats for years and they continue to use it today.  

Originally posted by: David Miller

 Bullshit - that phrase has been used by your lying Democrats for years and they continue to use it today.  


Best you just let this thread die, Davee-Boi, 'cause you look stoopid, kiddo.


Originally posted by: Vegas Todd

Best you just let this thread die, Davee-Boi, 'cause you look stoopid, kiddo.


  "Stoopid"? I am sure you know all about being "stoopid". Do your "stoopid" self a faavor and shut your ignorant mouth - your "stoopidity" is showing.

I have a question for the resident democrats / liberals here ( I lean conservative, admittedly). All I'd ask is that you respond honestly and it's OK to refer to me as a fuckface if that inspires you / makes your pee-pee swell /bolsters the surrounding mayhem. It won't bother me at all.

 

Do you think the real defunding of the varied police forces we've seen in multiple metro areas in the US has resulted in an overall positive outcome for the general populations of those communities to date? Which subgroups of the social strata / infrastructure within those defunded communities have directly benefitted?

 

Sorry..that's two questions. I'll remit a hot check for the error. Yes, I still write checks (generally backed by real currency) if that sheds further light on whom you might be responding to. :)

 

Thanks!

I'd have to see the numbers to know. How much was cut and did the corresponding crime rate go up or down.  Without actual numbers it is impossible to know. I know the highest murder rates are found in red state cities. Did the red states cut funding to their cities' PDs? Do you think the FBI should be defunded as called for by conservative politicians and media personalities? Do you think this demonization of Federal law enforcement will result in more crime against members of Federal  law enforcement?

Edited on Aug 12, 2022 6:50pm

I suppose I should share my additional opinion regarding the initial theme of this thread, rather than the general defund the police movement we've observed during the recent past. The call for defunding of the FBI by a few grandstanding Republican reps is ridiculous and largely represents a politically opportunistic photo- microphone op charade reflective of the real and current police defunding fostered by their opponents. It's ridiculous because, in reality, it will never happen. Lordy, I harbor disdain for the great grand majority of all politicians regardless of political persuasion. Therapy might be in order.

 

Cheers.

@Mark...No, I don't think the FBI should necessarily be defunded, particularly when the politicians and media personalities call for it in a very public fashion. It's old-fashioned bullshit, imo. We could enter into a further related discussion about institutional / bureaucratic machine wasteful spending..but as a conservative you know where I'd stand on that. To be consistent in that regard, I'd include other federal agencies other than the FBI as we argued about it further with both sides likely cycling back to the initial starting point. And that'd be OK, as what I'd label potentially wasteful you might consider as necessary. Yet, I think it would be an honest debate.

 

Resultant acts of violence / crime against federal law enforcement because of what you call this current demonization is likely. There's lunatics on all sides of our political spectrum and I suspect my side has proportionately as many fartberries as yours does. And to make it clear, I don't think the nationwide defunding movement has been productive for the involved general communities..but you already gathered that stance. 

 

I don't know the real numbers and dollar amounts associated with any red state city defunding efforts. I'd have to research it..and double check the source before offering / forming an opinion. I just don't know what the truth is regarding your question on this specific topic.

 

I won't worry about much of anything next week (Vegas trip imminent), other than finding a good 3:2 blackjack table with decent rules at a table minimum my bankroll can tolerate. You folks carry on..I might check back here in a couple months. Enjoy.

Edited on Aug 12, 2022 8:00pm
Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

I have a question for the resident democrats / liberals here ( I lean conservative, admittedly). All I'd ask is that you respond honestly and it's OK to refer to me as a fuckface if that inspires you / makes your pee-pee swell /bolsters the surrounding mayhem. It won't bother me at all.

 

Do you think the real defunding of the varied police forces we've seen in multiple metro areas in the US has resulted in an overall positive outcome for the general populations of those communities to date? Which subgroups of the social strata / infrastructure within those defunded communities have directly benefitted?

 

Sorry..that's two questions. I'll remit a hot check for the error. Yes, I still write checks (generally backed by real currency) if that sheds further light on whom you might be responding to. :)

 

Thanks!


I would challenge your characterization.  I dont think municipalities have defunded the police.   Funding levels are as strong as ever in most places....(and now someone will give me an example of one that is not).    Fine. 

 

There have been a few legitimate examples of mayors being elected that reacted to the string of recent police violence by instructing their police to essentially turn their back on crime.  San Francisco comes to mind.   That didnt result from a lack of funds - that was from a bad ideology.     Fortunately San Francisco did an about face in the recent election.

 

The  problems with systemic police racism  was and is real.   Thats not my opinion...thats born out in the statisitical demographics of unnecessary force, fines, arrests  and verdicts which show a massive and disproportionate skew in race (and also the findings if multiple Federal investigations into local police departments).      This needs to be rectified - but the answer is not to ignore crime.     Some place went from one bad extreme to the other.

 

People calling for the FBI to defunded are playing the same game only with one big difference.    The problem that motivates their position is fabricated....unless you believe they planted documents at MaraLago.

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