'57 vs '13

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: jatki99

Scenario 7:
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2013 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents - and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated.

Shortly after little DonDiego graduated Elementary School [There was no ceremony, like today. Little DonDiego just went to 7th Grade the next year in a different building on the other end of own.] he became interested in making his own rockets.

There was a company in Colorado, Estes Corp., which sold kits with one-time-use rocket engines to power them. That was cool, but shortly thereafter little DonDiego wanted to make his own rocket engines. So he did some reading and found out just how to do it.

He ordered some chemicals from a mail-order firm, . . . including lamp black (powdered carbon), powdered sulphur, and saltpeter (potassium nitrate), and an organic-compound which served as a binder. This is of course the recipe for gunpowder. DonDiego sent a USPS Money Order and received all the ingredients in the mail a week or so later. No questions, no delay, no inquisition, no cops alerted, no Feds knocking on his door.

Ahh, . . . those were the days. DonDiego made some pretty nifty rockets, . . . and more powerful than what the Estes Corp. would provide back then too. They flew pretty well. And sometimes he made things that didn't fly, . . . but they did make a very loud noise, sorta like a big firecracker. That was cool too.
And sometimes the rockets would carry the "firecrackers" a few thousand feet high were they be expelled and set off at altitude. That was cool too.

Anyway, the chemicals provided hours of fun, and injuries were fairly uncommon and usually not very severe. No property damage except for an occasional, and immediately extinguished, grass fire.

So little DonDiego survived, and matured [at least as much as he was able to], and went on to earn two engineering degrees, and become a rocket scientist.

Hmm, . . . if things were "regulated" then as they are now, DonDiego would've never got to make his own black powder and rockets and firecrackers.
And his interest in rocketry may well have fizzled away. And he might well have become a no-account drifter, or a con-man, or a crooked gambler, or some other sorta neer-do-well, . . . and drunk himself into a stupor, and died from chronic liver disease at a young age, . . . not to mention disappointing his Mother.

Damn Government!

[Oh, . . . for the record, little DonDiego would never have put black powder in a glass bottle as Johnny did; that is very dangerous. One could put an eye out with that. DonDiego explosives were contained in paper-board cylinders or paper wrappers.]

I too built and launched Estes rockets. I tried launching multi-stage rockets a few times. For some reason (I was probably doing it wrong) I couldn't get the first stage engine to ignite the second stage engine. Sometimes my single stage rockets wouldn't deploy the little parachutes so the rocket would disappear into the sky in about 3 seconds, never to fly again.
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Originally posted by: BAGIANT
If anyone has watched the Jay Leno show, aren't you all in amazement of the lack of knowledge that the people on the street have when it comes to pretty common knowledge questions? What do they teach in school nowadays? It seems that no one ever gets any geography questions correct. I'm not claiming that I was an "A" student, but even I can answer most of the questions Leno asks!


You are so right! It's like they are posting in a thread on a completely different subject!

Not an "A" student huh?

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Originally posted by: bbking

Back in the 50's if you got in trouble at school you prayed the nuns/teachers didn't call your parents.
You would get punished at school and again when you got home.



I saw kids slapped by nuns, BADA-BING, BADA BANG ..... and I was even hit on the knuckles with a ruler (9th grade).
Why ??? ...... Because while I was copying History notes off the blackboard,
I had my Latin book open, reviewing my vocabulary which was part of the previous night's homework.

...... and although this nun made us start school early, both in the morning and after lunch,
so we could copy those History notes, my time to do homework was at home.

Do you EVER think for one minute that I would go home and tell my parents that I got a nun upset ????

If something like this happened today, a lawyer would be knocking on the convent door

BTW, I think I turned out okay, with no ill effects from all the disciplne, and I did get a very good education.
My school, I think was rated the 3rd best school in the City of Boston.

Rick
Billy?

My wife who works in a local public school told me this story.

Couple of 5th graders inquired about setting up soccer teams during lunch. Here is how it was handled.

1- First the children had to have a meeting with the principal
2- The principal then had a meeting wth the teachers
3- The principal then had a meeting with the phys ed dept
4- A letter was sent to the parents for their input
5- An adult referee was selected
6- 2 weeks later the children had their teams.

When I was in school back in the 60's we would have chosen sides and just played, the adults/teachers didn't care. If the teams were unbalanced we would select new teams

John, Good thread you started here


Rick
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Originally posted by: Rock'n Rick
John, Good thread you started here


Rick


Yep, next we should compare train wrecks '57 vs '13

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Originally posted by: Rock'n Rick
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Originally posted by: bbking

Back in the 50's if you got in trouble at school you prayed the nuns/teachers didn't call your parents.
You would get punished at school and again when you got home.



I saw kids slapped by nuns, BADA-BING, BADA BANG ..... and I was even hit on the knuckles with a ruler (9th grade).
Why ??? ...... Because while I was copying History notes off the blackboard,
I had my Latin book open, reviewing my vocabulary which was part of the previous night's homework.

...... and although this nun made us start school early, both in the morning and after lunch,
so we could copy those History notes, my time to do homework was at home.

Do you EVER think for one minute that I would go home and tell my parents that I got a nun upset ????

If something like this happened today, a lawyer would be knocking on the convent door

BTW, I think I turned out okay, with no ill effects from all the disciplne, and I did get a very good education.
My school, I think was rated the 3rd best school in the City of Boston.

Rick


True story. In the 6th grade at a catholic school a kid was acting up during the pledge of allegiance. The teacher sees this and after the pledge is over walks over and tells him to take off his glasses. He removes his glasses and she grabs him by the hair of the head and proceeds to slap his face no fewer than ten times, fronthand and backhand. He sits down and puts his glasses back on. His face is beet red. Today he is a psychiatrist.

One thing for sure we never once thought of playing the fool during any patriotic activity at school after that. I remember it like yesterday and I am 56 years old.

The nuns were more like dictators,but they knew they could get away with almost any discipline because the parents would back them up.
Something is wrong if you have to beat a child into behaving or learning.
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