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forkushV
forkushV
Jan 30, 2014
2:27pm
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Originally posted by: pjstroh And On a thread where somone asserts that most Americans will see their taxes go up by 6k as a result of Obamacare I didn't see a need to prove anything. I just choose to point and laugh.

Uh, nobody said "most Americans will see their taxes go up by 6k as a result of Obamacare". You are putting words into someone else's mouth.
Another lie. But you're putting quotation marks into someone else's post. Without your make-believe quotations, PJ is quite accurate:


What "make-believe quotation" are you talking about? I quoted what PJ wrote. DFW didn't write what PJ claimed he did. There is a difference between "most" and "average", but that didn't keep you from calling me a liar.
Want to see me do it again?

Unless PJ's post used terms like mean, median, mode, and standard deviation, saying either "average taxpayers" or "most taxpayers" asserts the exact same idea. An incredibly nitpicky, but honest person, would have pointed out that subtle difference. That honest person ain't you.
Dan Svatass
Dan Svatass
Jan 30, 2014
4:20pm
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BobOrme is (gulp) right that pjstroh exaggerated a tiny bit in turning "average taxpayer" into "most Americans".

However, that's really beside the very good point that pjstroh was making, which is that the AlanLeroys have standards for fair FFA discourse that vary depending on whether the AlanLeroys agree with the poster's underlying political slant.

When a right-wing type drops the usual whopper, the AlanLeroys are never to be found. They reserve their criticism for those they respect.

drmilled
drmilled
Jan 30, 2014
8:28pm
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Typical liberal rationalization of facts that they don't agree with - just attack a word or phrase and ignore the topic. Birds of a feather stick together.
alanleroy
alanleroy
Jan 30, 2014
9:31pm
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot

When a right-wing type drops the usual whopper, the AlanLeroys are never to be found. They reserve their criticism for those they respect.
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I guess that means your new mini obsession with criticizing my comments not directed to you is a sign of respect. I'll accept that.

I do respect Forkush. I also expected a little more from him. Maybe the Chilcoots and PJs of the world need some tune up on their psychic powers as they seem to think they know what motivates people to post, when everyone should post, which topics merit comment and who everyone should respect.




I know. Maybe we should just go through these 20 new alleged taxes one at a time and find out which ones are real and which ones the vast right ring conspiracy is pulling out of their collective asses. It's more informative than just uttering the magic word "Jack Abramoff" don't you think? Who's game?

Nah. Maybe not. I told Mrs AlanLeroy I'd stay out of political discussion this year. Of course I was talking about the Chinese Year. When does that start?

alanleroy
alanleroy
Jan 30, 2014
11:48pm
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Originally posted by: pjstroh

On a thread where someone made a completely insane assertion about taxes he reserves his criticism towards those who point that absurdity out on the basis that one of the other points in the original post was not bogus.

OR perhaps on a thread Titled 'Affordable Care Act NEW TAXES' he reserves his criticism for those who dismiss a link to a congressman's web site where each of the new taxes are identified, scored by the CBO and referenced to the legislation....Just because Forkush tried to Abramoff those taxes doesn't mean they are fiction. Why should you or Chilcoot determine what points I choose to respond to? Is that your new job? Maybe I thought actually identifying 500 billion in new taxes is a little relevant to a topic called "Affordable Care Act NEW TAXES". Don't you?

Don
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Jan 31, 2014
12:07am
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I told Mrs AlanLeroy I'd stay out of political discussion this year. Of course I was talking about the Chinese Year. When does that start?

Umm, . . . January 31st, . . . TODAY!

It would seem that alanleroy has already violated his vow. Ahh, well, . . . there's always next year.

forkushV
forkushV
Jan 31, 2014
12:17am
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Originally posted by: pjstroh

On a thread where someone made a completely insane assertion about taxes he reserves his criticism towards those who point that absurdity out on the basis that one of the other points in the original post was not bogus.

OR perhaps on a thread Titled 'Affordable Care Act NEW TAXES' he reserves his criticism for those who dismiss a link to a congressman's web site where each of the new taxes are identified, scored by the CBO and referenced to the legislation....Just because Forkush tried to Abramoff those taxes doesn't mean they are fiction...
True, but it means that they are likely to be fiction. So why waste your time? Let me know when those claims are in the WSJ, Forbes, or similar, and then there is something to discuss.
alanleroy
alanleroy
Jan 31, 2014
12:21am
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
I told Mrs AlanLeroy I'd stay out of political discussion this year. Of course I was talking about the Chinese Year. When does that start?

Umm, . . . January 31st, . . . TODAY!

It would seem that alanleroy has already violated his vow. Ahh, well, . . . there's always next year.

Oops. Well it seems the celebration officially runs through Feb 6...so maybe there's a little leeway.

chefantwon
chefantwon
Jan 31, 2014
8:39am
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If Forkie is like the Democrats that voted for the law, then it's very likely he never read the bill nor does he have any idea of what parts of it come in to effect when.

We are in the first wave of the actual implmentation of the law so the little writting that nobody cared to look at starts to rear it's ugly head. The President delayed some parts of the law until next year (without the consent of the Congress I might add) so we may yet see more undesireable taxes.

The worst is yet to come.......
BobOrme
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Jan 31, 2014
5:55pm
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: pjstroh And On a thread where somone asserts that most Americans will see their taxes go up by 6k as a result of Obamacare I didn't see a need to prove anything. I just choose to point and laugh.

Uh, nobody said "most Americans will see their taxes go up by 6k as a result of Obamacare". You are putting words into someone else's mouth.
Another lie. But you're putting quotation marks into someone else's post. Without your make-believe quotations, PJ is quite accurate:


What "make-believe quotation" are you talking about? I quoted what PJ wrote. DFW didn't write what PJ claimed he did. There is a difference between "most" and "average", but that didn't keep you from calling me a liar.
Want to see me do it again?

Unless PJ's post used terms like mean, median, mode, and standard deviation, saying either "average taxpayers" or "most taxpayers" asserts the exact same idea. An incredibly nitpicky, but honest person, would have pointed out that subtle difference. That honest person ain't you.

You can choose to place your own definitions on the words you and PJ write when those words fit your agenda. That does not change the meanings of the words you and PJ write. "Average" and "most" do not mean the same thing, much less "exactly the same idea". This incredibly nitpicky and honest person did point out the difference. You called me a liar twice. PJ wrote one thing. DFW wrote something else. They were not the same. Call me a liar again.
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